Glazer: The Awful Truth; Greg Hall’s Site Never Really Mattered

Greg Hall

Greg Hall

I read Greg Hall when he wrote for KC Confidential – I remember him…

But I never really went to his website after he left. He’s a nice guy, but I just never was interested in what he had to say. I mean, if he’d had hard core news, like Eric Berry has cancer, I’d have read him. But why would I be interested in his opinions and the radio guy’s opinions – I have my own opinions about sports.

“I think they’re idiots. They’re all home towners even though the organizations here are horrible. But they’re jaded by their desire to please the local sports teams and fans.

PetroHeadShot_400x400Again, Greg Hall is a nice guy but his writing was just a hobby and he’s a complete unknown. Nobody knows who Greg Hall is and nobody much really knows who Soren Petro is. Do you think anyone recognizes Soren Petro when he walks into a restaurant – maybe a few people – but I doubt it.

Did Greg quit because he had too many nasty comments? No, of course not. He quit because he realizes there’s nothing in it for him = there’s no money. I mean, what’s the point? When he goes into a Quick Trip he’s not famous.

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61 Responses to Glazer: The Awful Truth; Greg Hall’s Site Never Really Mattered

  1. Not quite says:

    Pot, meet kettle.

  2. Kerouac says:

    CAPTION THAT (top) PIC

    Hall in the role Gazzara, the sporting remake ‘Run For Your Life’

  3. jimmy says:

    “I mean, what’s the point? When he goes into a Quick Trip he’s not famous.”

    Are you being facetious? If not then that is a really bizarre barometer for measuring celebrity. The guy who sells me taquitos recognizes me so, ipso facto, I’m famous.

    • admin says:

      That’s funny, Jimmy but…

      I think what Craig is trying to say is that people who get into the media often do it for fame and/or money. And since there obviously was no money, the fallback for many would be fame. The idea being then that if you’re famous – say like Johnny Dare – not only is the Quick Trip dude gonna give you a shout out, chances are Mayor Sly will as well.

      • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

        Just because some other people get into the media for fame/fortune, doesn’t mean everyone does. Hall never came off as a guy chasing the dollar. He just loved sports, loved to talk about sports, loved to write and loved listening to sports.

        • admin says:

          Hey may never have come off that way to you, Guy…

          However, I know him far better than you – which isn’t saying much, except that you totally don’t know him and I do.

          And money definitely matters to Greg.

          His wife makes a quite handsome salary and for years was the breadwinner while Greg followed his sports muse.

          Now he is making decent money and he lives in an upper middle class, new, fancy-schmancy home. North of the river, but very Johnson Country, new construction suburban.

          He definitelyndoes love sports – just like you perhaps – but one doesn’t have to get down in a three point stance and work fairly hard for free to get loving sports out of their system.

          People who are attracted to the public eye generally have egos…big egos, in fact. And Greg is normal in that regard.

          He definitely enjoyed the fame part of the game and held hopes of making a decent living. i.e he wanted to make money, not just do it for the love of the game.

          If it was strictly a love of the game deal, he wouldn’t be considering hanging it up

          • Phaedrus says:

            You guys make me laugh talking about your “fame” and “big egos”. You’re writing for a third-rate website, for God’s sake. When you say your traffic tripled, does that mean you got 50 new readers?

            If you guys are truly after fame, you’re all doing a piss poor job of it. If you really want to be famous, why don’t you go out and actually do something worthwhile?

            Equating fame with “being recognized in Quiktrip” is beyond laughable. You remind me of the small-town high school football star that thinks he’s famous, even though he isn’t good enough to even make the team in a mid-sized city.

            This site is beyond pathetic.

          • ??? says:

            And yet, here you are.

          • Mike says:

            Then you obviously have a lot more in common with Greg than you think.
            Why are you using his spouse’s salary as an axe against him? Wait, aren’t YOU benefiting from the money your family has too? Didn’t that allow you the freedom to try to hobnob with this town’s ‘social’ scene – in print and now on the web – in much the same way Greg worked his sports commentary?
            Didn’t both of you work at the Star, then become a number when it came time for cutbacks? (Buyouts, whatever. The writing was on the wall.)
            And in media, aren’t you supposed to have just a BIT of an ego, so you don’t get steamrolled?
            Seems to me that perhaps you grudge a bit much there, Hearne.

  4. Alphonse Tooty says:

    Hall’s a dumbass, and I’ve said so a few times over at OTC. But compared to Glazer, he’s a freaking genius.

  5. Old Man Kissel says:

    I don’t know, I’m going to miss his weekly marathon column on Fridays. No matter what big news that was going on in the world of sports we always looked forward to that damn marathon column.

    810 scoops 610 once again..

  6. CG says:

    First off I like Greg Hall, he’s a great person and bright. He did write some good things in the Star and on his site. Hearne was being a bit harsh here. My point is we write for money and or fame. Local and or national. Money is money.

    You can hate on me all you want, but when I go out I am even surprised at my being so well known in this city. Why. Media…radio, I do more than anyone, tv news on fairly often. these sites of course and print stories as well for years…

    Just doing one media thing in KC unless its tv or radio like Dare or maybe Mike Kennedy/ and yes Petro to some extent…doing just one not big enough here.

    Dare is the exception. He like it or not is ‘the hot button’ in KC. Bar nobody. Hey I know cause when I go out, and when I say like three words people around me go..’oh my god you are craig glazer, hear you on dare love it’ happens daily and often…

    Sure other stations get mentioned like KMBZ or Q or even Mix but mostly Johnny Dare. 10 t0 1. He is Howard Stern I am our Robert Downy or Charlie Sheen, for KC. Of course many know me from Stanfords and our commercials as well.

    So maybe that makes my writing and media have value. I guess. Even Black Barbie and Chocolate Becky are known from his show.

    So for Greg writing can bring some of that. He maybe didn’t care don’t know. He was always nice to me. But for sports I have my own opinions. I don’t work on it daily for hours. I’m busy with other things. However with my voice and b.s. yeah I should have been in the game to be a national voice for football. My fault I went into the crime biz instead. I often wish I had stayed in school and been a Howard Stern type of voice for sports…would have been fun. Pays more.

    I wish Greg Hall the best. He’s a good man. Many did like his writings for sure. But doing this doesn’t pay much unless its national. Whitlock finally made it big. He won.

  7. Jack Springer says:

    So much hate.

  8. Kyle R says:

    How unbelievably slow of a Newsday is it for you guys that you’ve posted three different columns about Greg Hall? At least Hearne had some interesting history to it; this is nothing but a slam job against a guy that’s never said a bad thing about you Glazer.

  9. Mysterious J says:

    I wonder what the Watson’s girl thinks about Hall giving up.

    • admin says:

      You know, Mysterious…

      It’s far more mysterious to be less predictable in your comments.

      I mean, mix it up, dogg, where’s the mystery?

      • Mysterious J says:

        You are probably not the guy to be accusing others of being predictable. Just sayin.

        • admin says:

          I may not be but that has nothing to do with your utter lack of originality above…

          Just saying, you can do better

    • the dude says:

      I want to know what the shopgirl at Hobbs thinks too.

      • admin says:

        Huh?

        Tell me you’ve not gone back to stalking, dude

        • the dude says:

          No, you have not asked the Hobbs shopgirl what she thinks about some random event in a while so I thought I would comment on it. I am too lazy to stalk anything, it is why I don’t hunt deer anymore.

          • admin says:

            Don’t know any showgirls at Hobbs, but thanks for thinking go me.

            BTW, is this really the best you can do in the way of a comment? Don’t make me go Greg Hall on you guys!

  10. mark smith says:

    ” I am our Robert Downy or Charlie Sheen, for KC” Seriously? Don’t let your ego overload your ass. If not for Hearnes site, Id have never known who you were and Ive lived here all my 55 years for the most part. I think you overestimate your fame quotient. By the way Its Downey with an E, unless Robert is the first name of the fabric softener bear. I didnt read Halls blog, dont know him, so I dont know if he wrote for fame or just for fun, that said it’s clear that Craig ,six decades in, is still chasing that dream. Most writers could walk around and not be recognized. Do you think Dennis Lehane or Elmore Leonard got mobbed at the local grocery store? Between em they’ve sold more books, many that have been turned into movies, than I can count. My point is, a writers idea of fame is how widely read they are, not how many people recognize them at the car wash. For a blogger that nobody cared about, you guys have spent alot of time telling us about him.

    • the dude says:

      I am the Downy fabric softener!! Koo Koo Ka Chooooob mutherlover!!

    • harley says:

      nice comment smith.
      if no one cared bout this guy how come he got 10 times the
      comments hearne doe?
      As far as glaze…its time to retire him from the sports desk.
      He is hitting about 25% of his picks…he was always wrong about
      the royals and chiefs…(and I corrected him)….not justoncein awhile..
      but in the entire seasons. And his reasons were that of a 12 year old.
      He doesn’t understand schemes/strategy/the players/the limitations
      from gm’s and owners/and that reid eseentially has to rebuild from
      scratch the team…but glaze doesn’t get it….
      he knows nothing
      and his stories are mere regurgitation of what others say.
      In fact…whoever is telling him what to say…whoever is feeding
      him his picks (he said he knew about marshall and western
      Kentucky when he can’t find either on a map) is the worst
      I’ve ever seen.
      But worse of all he has this delusion of grandeur especially
      when he said people say they know him from johnny dare show.
      Great…I’m sure they watch johnnys show everyday on tv and
      recognize the king of sting. hahahaha.
      He’s in kc…not Hollywood..not new York….and in the realm of
      reality…few people give a fuck!
      I did not read hall’s column…he made some really harsh comments
      about successful sports people…and he should have kept his mouth shut.
      Hall was the shoedog of sports so to say.

    • CG says:

      I do more than blog Mark. I just wrote what I know. Many people in the media think the same to some extent about the same thing. They just won’t admit it.

      Being in the public eye is often paid off in attention and not dollars. Dollars are better.

      Most readers here only know me from this site for the most part. So I understand. Yes it sounds ‘big ego’ to say what I did. It doesn’t make me any better than anyone else. Yes there are surely others in KC who would draw more attention than me. No doubt. IT’s just an example of why people do things thats all.

      Hey in the coming years as I grow older and likely not in the media as much the attention will surely fall. Always does. Unless you are Len Dawson.

    • CG says:

      Mark, I’m not chasing anything. Want my movie made sure. But I have made movies and done too much to tell over again. Sure I would have enjoyed more national success most would. I just say here what I feel and think. Almost nobody else will. They cover their feelings so you won’t get mad at them. As for Greg Hall Hearne called me and told me he quit. I said I liked Greg. Hearne asked me why did I think he quit. I guessed on money and attention. I could be wrong. Maybe Greg just got tired of doing it, who knows.

      Hearne likes to focus on negatives. That’s what gets attention. The sad truth.
      In the end not much matters we all come and go, some make more noise than others thats all.

      • admin says:

        As far as me liking to focus on the negative, 100 percent of what what Craig said is what appears in this column.

        Nothing whatsoever out of context.

        Craig tends to get a little goosey sometimes when somebody gets upset at what he says or writes.

    • admin says:

      Hey Mark, I’m not saying nobody cared about him…

      Obviously I did and still do. You know, all in Greg’s got 20 years in this so-called media game and given his many ups and downs, he warrants a send off, which is what I gave him.

      You know, he earned it.

      But that doesn’t mean he gets a pass for not being completely forthcoming. Judging by some of the comments on his farewell piece, I’m not the only one who doesn’t buy the “comments? excuse.

      Oh I’m sure he was being honest about not liking them, but embarrassed?

      OK, maybe.

      But if his site had even the traffic of the old KC Confidential and was taking in a couple grand a month, I seriously doubt he’d be hanging it up.

      Of course he wanted to make money. And of course he wanted to “be somebody.”

      Who doesn’t?

      Frankly the pay in media being what it more often than not is, having a bit of a claim to fame is one of the few perks people get.

  11. CG says:

    P.S. I don’t think all sports guys are idiots, just some. I like the guys on 610 and some on 810..I do listen.

  12. Skeptic says:

    The sad truth is, is that Glazer doesn’t really matter except to himself.

    • admin says:

      Come on, skeptic…

      If Craig didn’t matter why would he be on this site, in the Star and on all those radio and television shows?

      Is he the King of Kings?

      No, but he definitely matters – even if you only love to hate him!

      • KCMonarch says:

        I don’t know about that Hearne. If CG dried up and blew away tomorrow, who would really notice?

        He’s not in the public eye because there is a demand for his brand of ignorance. He inserts himself out there and people like you and Dare gladly hang him out like a piñata because it’s easier than putting together quality work.

        • admin says:

          You have a point, KCMonarch…

          Then again, who isn’t replaceable, forgettable.

          Life goes on at the Star in sports after the two biggest personalities in the last 20 years both left. Life goes on in the wake of my column going away and it was the highest read at the paper.

          We can live without me, Glazer, Greg Hall, Tony, Larry Moore, Lorde, the Foo Fighters – you name it.

          Meanwhile, people like Craig make life a little more fun, a little more interesting – I think – in respect to providing local color.

          If you were to recount some of the misadventures, crazy shit and let’s not forget the positives of bestowing upon Kansas City one of the top comedy clubs in the country, it would be a very long list.

          What’s not to like about that?

          • KCMonarch says:

            First off, Lorde and Foo Fighters are artists whose work can and will be enjoyed long after they exit this mortal coil. Glazer is simply a village idiot.

            As far as the comedy club, he globbed onto something that someone else built. Whoopee. Hell, for that matter he wasn’t even industreous enough to be a successful drug dealer. Instead he robbed from those far more ambitious than himself.

      • Skeptic says:

        Why is he on this site if he doesn’t matter? Now that is rich.

  13. the dude says:

    Then tell him not to put your name on the byline and just quote you directly.
    See how easy that is?

  14. CG says:

    Here’s why bright guy. I am funny. I play a role as a likable villain. I say what many people think but are afraid to say. Like you. Nobody has a body of work like mine in this city, from real life crime to comedy to movies and beyond. Oh yeah and the ladies. Who does all that at my age here. NOBODY. So some of the reasons…as far as would I be missed. Hey who is? But yeah, there is nobody like me in KC. People hate on me cause my life is so unique in its living your life as a movie as my book points out. Oh yeah my book, that too. The list goes on and on…there is a bit of Craig Glazer in all of us. Even you.

  15. CG says:

    By THE WAY GREG HALL TEXTED ME, WE ARE GONNA MEET FOR LUNCH OR DINNER AND SEE EACH OTHER SOON. THERE ARE NO HARD FEELINGS…THERE YOU GO…

    • the dude says:

      Pic of you two with the day’s paper in your hand at the Beaumont or it didn’t happen, ya yella belly!

  16. BBTG says:

    Tony – Bring back the girls this site was much more interesting with the half naked chicks.

  17. Jess says:

    This tells me everything I need to know about Glazer, you just pissed all over him in this paragraph and he will be back. He has no where else to go, who would take him?

  18. Frank says:

    This is Hearne’s website. This is Hearne’s writing. Yet your name is on it. I guess Hearne is a pussy and you, Craig, are his bitch. You might want to get out of the building before he asks you to get on your knees

  19. admin says:

    You guys all done pimping Craig yet?

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