As Americans all over this great nation celebrate Independence Day
are we really that independent any more?

Headlines shout that record number of citizens are “disabled”, on food stamps, or receiving some sort of government assistance. Government is now involved in one way or another in over half of the gross national product and is the nation’s largest employer…

And Government doesn’t even do great things anymore.

It used to build and do the impossible. We threw off the yoke of British rule, won two World Wars against worthy adversaries and now we’re getting our asses handed to us by a bunch of guys running around the mountains in

We used to build giant infrastructure projects, lead the world in manufacturing and now it’s hard to find anything that’s not made in China. Meanwhile our once gleaming cities can’t even fix a water department and a state can’t even improve its department of motor vehicles.


A recent Rasmussen poll kind of encapsulates what’s wrong with the American Spirit.

When asked if America is still the land of liberty and justice for all a scant 53% said that we are. Is anyone really surprised? Government spies on its citizens, regulates everything- even a child’s lemonade stand- stands in the way of innovation and won’t even allow energy independence by exploiting domestic resources in favor of buying energy from countries who hate us. 

And every now and then I stumble across something that exemplifies The Wussification of America.

Have you ever heard of a “Brony?” It’s what a group of grown men who are fans of a little girls TV show called My Little Pony– call themselves. And last weekend thousands of them from across “The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave” descended on BronyCon Summer 2012 at the New Jersey Meadowlands Exposition Center in what may be the largest gathering of beta males who live in their mother’s basement EVAH!

American men used to build skyscrapers, win wars, build better mousetraps, hunt wild animals and climb mountains. Now when they’re not playing X-BOX they’re gathering dressed as their favorite character
from My Little Pony!

Are you freaking kidding me?

But what else would you expect from a generation of boys that were told they had some sort
of mental disorder and were given mega doses of Ritalin for not being able to “sit still” in a boring class room. 

America on this 4th of July is at a turning point.

We can either start reclaiming our rights and responsibilities or we can continue our decline into a bankrupt nanny state from Hell. If you want to read something today that will inspire you about where America
came from and what we are to aspire to I have a suggestion;

Find a copy of the “Declaration of Independence” and rediscover what Independence Day is all about.

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51 Responses to Whinery: DOES AMERICA STILL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF 1776?

  1. smartman says:

    Love Letters
    Where do I begin? We can blame THE GREAT SOCIETY programs, toss in the NEA, ACLU, PBS, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, DNC, NAACP, GM, NYT, WAPO, AFL-CIO, SEIU, SAG, AFTRA, IBT, NORML, et. al, for starters. We suffer from such a massive case of Electile Dysfunction by letting EVERYONE vote, one of the few flaws in our system of governance. In principle, with some exceptions too numerous to list here, if you are on the dole in any way shape or form you should lose your right to vote. I don’t care whether people vote their heart or wallet, but when the government is stocking your wallet with welfare cash, government cheese, cell phones, and health care, you sure as hell ain’t gonna vote for the guy or gal that might wanna take those freebies away from you. You hearin’ me Manny and the CBC? You fucking modern day merchants of slavery! You too Jesse, Al and Charlie. How could a culture that gave us the BRILLIANT combination of fried chicken and waffles give us such distasteful fucks as these?

    Angry white men founded this country. Along the 236 year way some people of color and various ethnicities have learned through reasonable assimilation to share the same goals, values, hopes and dreams as the angry white man. It is the collective WE that ultimately will pry the collective THEY off the government teat with the proper tools of persuasion. We are mad as hell and we ain’t gonna take it any more.

    The big boom you may hear later on tonite is me shooting my .50 cal into a 55 gallon drum of gasoline. That’s my way of celebrating. Not watching CHINESE fireworks go up in smoke like our country is while everybody ooh’s and ah’s.

  2. Super Dave says:

    Hey smartman you forgot to mention all the lawyers who collect hundreds of thousands to make up idiot laws that fuck real Americas over everyday.

  3. chuck says:

    The destruction of the American
    and the now steady trip up the path to Golgotha, is and will be paved with the lies we tell ourselves and our children now about the real condition of this nation. The coming elegies sung in praise of once great American heroes and leaders, will leave those survivors curious as to why such a singular state swallowed so much poisen, when it was so obvious after that first gulp, just how fatal it would be.

    Simple reductionist logic, with respect to current social and economic conditions in conjuction with extrapolations an 8th grader (From Blue Valley.) could parse, would leave us to believe, that the onerous burden, now borne by an the ever decreasing numbers of middle class taxpayers is categorically unsustainable.

    What is your poisen?

    The apotheosis of multiculturalism and diversity has suffused our every day lives to such an extent, that one could believe that some cthonic underworld demon has hypnotized us en masse. In fact, we have been hypnotized. By our own media, and the liberal Plutocrats who rule the 4th estate.

    Force fed for decades (Prior to the internet. Thanks Al Gore. Right…?) a narrative of ancestoral guilt and debt, by way of the 4th estate’s lies, misdirection and legerdemain, we all stepped up to a vat of kool aid laced prepared by rouges and civil rights mountebacks like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and an African American Roman mob that now metaphorically hangs half white guys in the public forum in anticipation of either a disgraceful conviction, or a paroxysm of bloody riots and destruction.

    Held ransom by the new rainbow zeitgeist, our borders are over run while the Feds sue to stop the states from enforcing the law.

    Wall Street robber barons (Robert Diamond can ya loan me a dime?) with few exceptions, are back at the trough, “Too Big To Fail.”

    Muslims in Dearbornistan (We have 5,000 Islamic Somalis we “Imported” on purpose who are living mostly down around 3rd and Lydia. What a fuckin cluster fuck. The Federal Govt is trying to kill us. Simple as that.) last week stoned some Christians who were lobbying against them with signs. The cops did nothing.

    Our Attorney General has promised not to prosecute Black on White hate crimes and our Main Stream Media gleefully promise not to even mention them.

    Captains of industry have fled to foriegn shores for better corporate tax rates with the expected concomitant job loss.

    Our politicians, for the most part, self aggrandizing (Hey Nancy Pelosi, gimme the juice http://nation.foxnews.com/nancy-pelosi/2011/11/14/60-minutes-exposes-pelosi-corruption) shit heels who are either fuckin us, or Client 9 on the Goverment dime.

    Lemme stop crying into my Activia for a moment and solve this problem for ya.

    Ya wann stop being smooth “Down There” like a fuckin Ken Doll? Ya wann toss away that cell phone holster and forget the whole gender reassigment shit? Ya want some fuckin ordo ob chao in your neighborhood, your city and your country?

    Common Sense. There ya go. Appropriate on this 4th of July, a nod to Thomas Paine and the erstwhile hope that you youngsters will wake the fuck up and see evil for evil and say that it is evil.

    Here goes, a seminal lesson kids.

    On this date, the 4th of July, in 1609, here in America, Samuel De Champlain shot and murdered 2 Iroquois Chiefs that were harshin his buzz. Last month, we fried 24 Pakis with drones who “Were on our side”. Emmit Till is dead. The list goes on. The incessant hand wringing, finger pointing and sanctimonious bullshit from this carapace of cunts who profit from this culture of complaint is the biggest growth industry in America today.

    Take a deep breath. You shouldn’t give a shit. Time to start seeing the big picture before the devil in the details kills us all with false guilt and has us reading Das Kapital with Karl and Freddy in the 9th circle.

    What counts is now.

    The 5th column of Takia Islamic shit heel fucks here in America is a disgrace and a sin on the heads of liberal pukes who now look over to Europe and gasp at the implications.

    The Entitlement culture which has permeated and destroyed African Americans must come to an end. Fuck EBT, ADC et al which is available jsut because you can shoot kids outta your vagina like a fuckin Jesus canon. Quit whining, no one fuckin cares anymore. Go to work and pull up your fuckin pants.

    Jail the Wall Street robber barons who knew and sold mortgage backed securities and sunk the economy.

    Kill as many as possible, by any means necessary, at the earliest possible moment, terrorists and their families, just like Isreal does.

    Execute every one on death row this week.

    Legalize weed and free up prison space for violent offenders.

    Understand once and for all, that violence is the only thing gang members understand. Kill, maim or incarcerate them now.

    Let go, once and for all, the necrotic cognitive dissonance with impedes utilitarian forceful action in the face of liberal opprobrium.

    And finally, don’t be afraid of violence your self. Understand it, and embrace it. Its coming.

  4. harley says:

    nice half of an article whinery. You’re getting better.
    but i’ve got a few minutes before picnic so here goes.
    1. regulations: come on whinery…regulations have been cut under obama…twice as many as
    under bush…oh and the regulations that could have saved us from economic metldown…yea
    those…well the repubs keep trying to kill them…come on whinery…you know better…and guys
    like you make big money working on those regulations…take them away and attorneys really
    have nothing left but traffic.
    2. government doesnt do great things anymore? what? how about medicare/social security/to name
    a few…ask some seniors what they think…they got 80-90% approvals….
    3. ramussen: most biased poll out there…get a average of something then get back with me..
    use a rolling average of polls to really get a good reading…ras is know as conervatives dream.
    smarman…you forgot a few groups sucking at the government tit…..oil companies…corporations not paying
    taxes…utilities companies…locally you’ve got sprint/amc/lawyers/ag businesses/oh and dont forget the
    biggest crooks defense contractors lobbying for projected the military doesn’t want or need…if you knock those
    cheats out you essentially have noone voting. And again your racist tones are getting old…the stats show you’re
    wrong again and again….ranting about blacks ….the corporations rolling the loopholes to avoid 100 billion
    in unpaid taxes a year is huge compared to what the people on welfare show.
    Unfortuantely smartman you’re not a good one with facts and figures…your writings lack any
    serious stats or truths…come on….next time provide some intelligent analysis for those rants…we know
    you can do better…be careful ….those sparklers can be dangerous (lol)

  5. harley says:

    chuck…anger management
    come on dude…its not that bad. Deal with it. Old white guys are going downhill with you. Your world is
    changing. The minorties are mvoing into your neighborhood (i guess you live in raytown) so get used to it.
    Its coming. Life is good….violence? where? when? use violence? execute everyone on death row?
    are you serious ….30% of them are innocent!!!!!!great idea!!!!!!
    false guilt? where buddy….sorry don’t see it.
    where’s all the evil. I thought ordering at gates was tough…it wan’t evil.
    kill terorists…our presdient took down the top echelon of al queda and it wasn’t enough for the
    rethugs…..kill them!!!! ar3e you serious….some might think you’re a terorist…check out the
    definition bud….you’re scaring people…threatening people…thats terror!!!!!!1
    who’s complainign…i’m not…things are tough but they’re okay and life is still okay…and beautiful.
    boogeymen? haters? vilent offenders?
    israel kills terrorists asap….you’vev not been to israel bud…..they’ve learned to live with the
    people they once called terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrong again.
    borders overrun…not according to the facts…facts that say thats b.s……
    captians fled to foreigh shores…not because the taxes are too high ..theyre not…because they
    paid off the ooficials and they don’t have to pay their share…like business owners like
    me and glaze and hearne…and kiefs…and roger the plumber….shit buddy….its not because
    of the rates….its because they are thieves and don’t want to play by the rules so they
    buy off legislators….long before obama took over…..obama shut them down …
    attorney general won’t prosecutr black on white crimes…uh where…name an instance..
    give us a case….where did you get that……..
    pelosi corruption? weak argument…they all get inside information and they all
    make money on it….need some examples…mccain/grahm/all got inside information
    from hearting and used that to their advantage…how many repubs got inside info
    on the financial meltdown and ran and called their brokers and moved money before
    the collapse…shit chuck they all did!!!!!!! read about it.

  6. smartman says:

    If you were any more myopic you’d be a nearsighted eyeball with legs. Go grab your yellow crayon and draw some butter.

  7. smartman says:

    @ chuck
    Well done as always!

  8. chuck says:

    @ Harley–Your quote, sans the now expected lack of punctuation.

    “attorney general won’t prosecutr black on white crimes…uh where…name an instance..
    give us a case….where did you get that…….”.

    Here is just ONE place I get it, there are MANY more.


    Again from Harley.

    “Your world is
    changing. The minorties are mvoing into your neighborhood (i guess you live in raytown) so get used to it.
    Its coming. Life is good….violence? where? when? use violence?”

    I grew up in Ruskin not Raytown. I’ve no plans to “get used to it” anytime soon.

    From Harley.

    “you’re scaring people…threatening people…thats terror!!!!!!”

    No comment.

    Harley–“israel kills terrorists asap….you’vev not been to israel bud…..they’ve learned to live with the
    people they once called terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wrong again. ”

    They kill ’em all the time Harley. Day and night, moms, dads, kids, dogs…., er…, goats etc.


    Hell Harley, the Tribe understands illegal immigration, the expected resulting murder, rape, assault and violence and they DO something about it!!


    How sweet is that!!??!!

    And of course, this from our resident gadfly.


    I got a cave all picked out. If smarty will let me borrow his 50 Cal, then it’s a fuckin party!

    It will be the haves against the have nots.

    Harley, don’t forget the secret whistle, you know how to whistle don’t ya? Just put your lips together and blow.

  9. smartman says:

    Harley Takes Another Lowe Blow
    Christ Chuck, keep that up and Amnesty International is gonna be on your arse. Maybe they’ll bring Bono with them and we can find out if he’s cured AIDS in Africa yet or if he’s still pimping the IMF for that twenty five cent a day pill popper fund. Maybe he’ll give us some red iPods.

    Harley, contrary to your lack of self realization going toe to toe with Chuck is really not in your best interest. He’s like THE MACHINE in 9mm. He will kill you every time. Knowledge is the ultimate power. Chuck is an intellectual nuke. You’re a fucking Woolworth cap gun. It’s not even humorous anymore. It’s sad because you actually believe all the shit you write and like your half black savior and wanna be BFF you think if you say it louder and prouder it will all come true.

  10. harley says:

    chuck and smartman…paranoia to the extreme
    I went back decades to books written by such scholars as pat buchannon and found the exact same
    crap you two write about in his writings. This stuff has been going on for years and the bullshit
    has really gotten old.
    In other words we have two people with little accomplishments in life trying to find excuses for
    the fact that things haven’t work out like they should. Maybe its a built-in mechanism you
    have that causes you to hate others who you have never known. You’re white men who fear
    what the future holds…only because its the basis of your thinking. You haven’t adapted to those
    changes trying to make yourself feel good by advocating violence and hate. Both spewing out
    hate against jews/blacks/hispanics/and any other person you can find who is not right
    in your face to counteract your words. I’m sure that when you play with your little guns its
    cool to imagine someone on the other side. Shooting 50 cals in your backyard…now that
    takes courage. Spewingcrap about the end of the world and how brave you’ll be to stop it..
    all the while speaking like cowards behind a key board trying to make the 10 readers
    on kcc think you’re really smart and courageous.
    You both probably don’t have kids. You’re probably leading very anti social lives.
    Instead of enjoying life…you’re posting on here on fridays/saturday nights at 1am/2am.
    Almost no real human contact.
    You read the right wing crazy shit and it fires you up. And your perversion and sexual
    trash has been the subject of many people on here…most saying how odd it is that
    every comment has some assertion to gay sex. Not my style.
    The world is not ending. Millions of americans are enjoying life. Sure there have been
    some roller coaster rides over the last few years. enjoying life with families…and talking
    of family and friend get togethers on the 4th of july instead of talking of anger and shooting 50 cals
    into a barrel of gas on a national holiday. Not my idea of fun. To each their own.
    You glamorize killing people. Obviously you’ve never experienced the pain of those who’s
    served the country. Killing and war is not glamorous. In fact when you see the returning
    vets and see what they’re experiencing you realize killing and war are terrible terrible
    inventions of man. No need to kill your fellow americans…you can change the world
    with non violence and with “people power”….yes it really works.
    You feel threatened. We all do at sometime. but you take it far beyond the norm.
    Enjoy life…get out….find a hobby….your pent up anger is almost scary. If you don’t
    liek your surroundings move. If you don’t like your jobs…change it. But living in
    a shell believing the world and everyone in it iis out to get you is really not a
    fun way to live. Things will get better. You’re facts seem to come from some very
    fringe outlets. I don’t recognize them but i’m pretty sure they are your main source
    of information on the coming war.
    Relax. Enjoy your senior years of life with peace. Yes the world is changing but
    the .0005% of americans who are part of your cult are hardly mainstream.
    Oh…and im’ sure when your time c omes you’ll be turning down those gvernment
    checks from the people who are killing this nation….i wold love to see that.
    We could argue all day…you two are peas in a pod. Hate/anger/and
    prejudice are very veyr tough emotions to carry with you day in and day out.
    May peace be with you. Life is really too short to hate
    When we were young we used to play with the plastic soliders in the back yard
    playing ‘army”. It was fun. It was a way to kill time. But many of my friends..many
    of the people I personally have encountered over the last 10 years will tell you
    death…killing and war is not fun. Their lives have changed dramatically. Every year
    I received thousands of cards and letters from faimilies who lost loved ones
    in war. Preaching hate/death and violence against your neighbors is not a
    good way to live. it will eat you up inside!!!!!

  11. mike says:

    here is the big problem
    Remember when JFK once said not to ask what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country? We now have too many people asking what their country can do for them and are going bankrupt because of it.

  12. smartman says:

    Toe-may-toe Toe-mah-toe
    Harley, you can call it hate, anger and prejudice, we call it honor, code and integrity. Ramble all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that this country is morally and fiscally bankrupt and one way or the other something has to be done about it. We agree on the destination but not the journey. Look at all the great civilizations and their rise and fall. We are due for an all out shootenanny to rid our societal bowels of the toxic waste and human excrement that has been accumulating. Live Free Or Die.

  13. the dude says:

    The problem is there is
    too much fluoride and artificial estrogen from plastics in my water that make me want to “bronie up”.

    Also too many freeloaders and mouthbreathers that don’t know the difference between their weapon and their gun.
    I was reminded of the final song from Nashville I watched the other day that reminds me a lot of what is going on these days.

    “They say this train don

  14. balbonis moleskine says:

    I didn’t think it could get dumber than the article.
    Then I read the comments.

  15. alien allen says:

    god forbid someone from another planet
    read smartmans and chucks comments. They would think we’d all gone looney. WTF is going on there? Are they nuts?

  16. smartman says:

    Beam Me Up
    Since I’m such a danger to society maybe the aliens will beam my ass up to save the planet. I hear the women all look like Harris Faulkner have two vaginas, and a third breast on their backs…..for dancing. Sign me up and remember KSW!

  17. chuck says:

    Your mischaracterization of comments and disingenuous corollaries are welcomed in this instance, because it is exactly this type of increasingly insufferable reposte that is part and parcel, of the liberal narrative when confronted with irrefutable facts.

    From Harley;

    “I went back decades to books written by such scholars as pat buchannon and found the exact same
    crap you two write about in his writings.”

    I am guessing, that you think that comment is pejorative. First, you don’t have to go back decades, read “Suicide of a Super Power” and “Death of the West”. A straight line reference from Pat Buchanan to something I wrote, in no way pisses me off, or embarasses me.

    From Harley;

    “Maybe its a built-in mechanism you
    have that causes you to hate others who you have never known. ”

    It’s called a culture war Harley, we hate the game, not the players. Understanding pronoun references , personification and timing with respect to commentary and events will be of good service to you sir.

    From Harley;

    “Your white men who fear what the future holds…”

    Guilty as charged.

    From Harley;

    “Both spewing out
    hate against jews/blacks/hispanics/and any other person you can find who is not right
    in your face to counteract your words.”

    Fallacious, unproven and categorically untrue. Your take on my politics in no way justifies criticism by way of YOUR politics. It is a diference of opinion, that you and most liberals personalize when cornered by facts of superior argument.

    From Harley;

    “Shooting 50. cals in your backyard…”

    I shot 3″ 50s Thompsons, 45s and BARs, never got to shoot a 50 Cal, and if I did, it sure as hell wouldn’t be in my back yard.

    From Halrey;

    “And your perversion and sexual
    trash has been the subject of many people on here…most saying how odd it is that
    every comment has some assertion to gay sex. Not my style.”

    Idiotic, salacious and once again, categorically untrue. Your mention of gay sex in this context is a gnomen pointing you to a hard look in the mirror. It’s no big deal dude.

    Finally, your comments on war are true for the most part.

    Doesn’t change anything.

  18. black angel says:

    read this whitey. we’re ready to take you on.
    It has been proven over centuries that WM are scared of BM. They discriminate against BM at every turn, have tried to wipe our race out of existence, and need 1000 WM to subdue 1 BM. I think they are afraid that if BM have equal opportunity at jobs,being CEO’s,etc that we will take over and put them into slavery. I also think they envy our strength and knowledge. They tried to keep books from us so we wouldn’t be able to read but we are still here, the black man. WM trying to put BM in jail and falsely accuse us of crimes the BM did not commit. Now they think taking our women that we don’t want will destroy us. Not going to happen BM is still here standing strong. They use television, internet, and all kinds of resources to discredit us and think that we are deadbeats and terrible men. It’s funny WM follow our trends, actually they have been stealing them from us for centuries. They stole inventions and made it their own, blacks at one time could not patent anything so the WM would steal it,patent it, and make it their own. We couldn’t vote and then they tried to lynch us with lynch mobs. Now they are trying to use BW against us to make us lose our self esteem. Not going to happen, if you haven’t destroyed us by now WM you never will. Black man still here standing strong. They try to take the extenze to make their pe–s bigger to emulate what the BM has. Some WM even take butt injections to make their butt bigger. They tried to take our music,our culture,everything and make it their own. They even try to say they built America. Any smart BM will tell you that’s dead wrong, BM built it along with some help from BW. And still in Silicon Valley in order for a BM to start a business a WM has to front it. Why?? Because of racism and prejudice from WM. I laugh at the pathetic attempts by WM to tear BM apart. But the black is still here,standing strong. Stop being so scared WM, you afraid you are going to find out we are better than you? I think you already know that in your subconscious that this is true. God made us all equal but your racism,prejudice and your pathetic attempts to take the BM out of existence has not worked. And these things make you weaker and scared little cowards. Black Man still standing still strong.

  19. smartman says:

    @black angel
    That is some straight up dope ass funny shit! You are Tyler Perry HILARIOUS! You need your own joint on Spike or BET. You don’t need to worry about us right wing nut job crackers taking you down. If that happens you’ll only be collateral damage. Do you realize that there are more black slaves in the world today than ever before? Only difference is that today the slave owners are BLACK!

    At the rate you crazy fuckers are killing each other you’re doing all our heavy lifting for us. Best thing that could ever happen to the black brothers and sisters is for right wing nut jobs like me to take over. Then, and finally then you will be judged by the content of your character and NOT the color of your skin. Then we will see if you really got game. The kind that Brothers Smiley and West have. Game on!

  20. expat says:

    …do you agree with black angel’s statement?

  21. the dude says:

    @black angel,
    you one funny BM. You need to talk to Glazer about dong some bits at his club. You funny.

  22. chuck says:

    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind,
    that Black Angel believes every thing he wrote.

    Every syllable.

    His perception of America, economic and social, including his reasons for African American failure to this juncture, is an archetypal concensus amongst many, if not most African Americans in my opinion. The built in excuses for the abject failure in every discipline sans sports, entertainment and civil rights, with few exceptions, in spite of trillions of dollars, legislation, social engineering intiatives, and a liberal narrative incessantly beat into us by 4th Estate Plutocrats over the last 50 years is laid conveniently at the feet of White Racists.

    And it is working.

    Black Angel is winning. The end game is not important (Detroit? Johanesburg? East St. Louis? St. Louis? etc etc), the African American Metasystem thrives on ego and an Orwellian belief (In spite of the unambiguated evidence to the contrary.) that repitition and constant reconstruction of a 60 year old clarion call for “equality” will elevate African Americans onto the Hadron Collider team. That if more money is spent and more tribute paid to an African American Roman mob, then African American educational excellence will be realized and that pesky cold fusion problem will be in the rear view mirror.

    Black Angel, like all African Americans is weponized by appearance and the association of violence, murder, rape and assualt with that same appearance.

    Black Angel is correct in his implication that White People are afraid and want to avoid the violence and atavistic inclinations of most African Americans.

    Black Angel offers only unconditional surrender and an increasing subservience to what is now, an African American run nation.

    America is Lot’s wife, running from a disaster of her own making, looks back at the destruction and is turned into the salt Black Angel rubs in our wounds.

    Read Black Angel’s comment one more time. I am thinking many of you (Not Harley), although maybe you didn’t articulate it, were thinking, “There is no fixing this shit.”

    Good comment Black Angel.

    Clarification and education are important and we could all make use of your profound and interesting takes.

  23. smartman says:

    Chucks response in jive
    I took the liberty of running Chuck’s commen through the jive filter at rink works.com for the benefit of the less educated readers



  24. the dude says:

    Hadron Collider
    Team, you guys are too much.

  25. smartman says:

    Riddle me this black angel
    If Barack Obama has an immediate eligibility problem, it is more likely to derive from the Social Security Number he has been using for the last 25 years than from his birth certificate.

    Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama

  26. the dude says:

    CIA ghouls can do
    wonders with paperwork smartman, you ought to know that by now.

  27. Orphan of the Road says:

    One man’s hero is another man’s terrorist.
    It was exceptionally hot & humid in June 1776. A diverse group of men assembled to start this great experiment in representative democracy. They were flawed individuals. They had polar opposite positions yet they managed to work together and forge a compromise.

    They pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. Just think about it for a minute.

    Family sat in one of those chairs in Carpenter’s Hall. They later left in disgust when President Washington sent troops against the citizens in the Whiskey Rebellion. Later he returned and gave Washington’s eulogy.

    Where are they today? Who amongst our self-declared and elected leaders will put the good of the Nation and the citizens above their ideology?

    The list is painfully short, the populace is corrupt and content. The government cheese flows freely to the rich and the poor. Which spigot is opened fullest depends on who is in charge.

    “No one in this world, so far as I know

  28. mike says:

    A house divided against itself cannot stand
    While there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate of competing ideas, this “us vs. them” stuff based on racial and ethnic differences is destructive. There are good and bad people in all races and cultures. People are people. We would be better off discussing issues and potential solutions based on the merit of the arguments. Our country is a melting pot. Always has been and always will be.

  29. smartman says:

    The melting pot has broken. It’s time for a trip to Williams Sonoma to buy a new one. When the house is divided as badly as ours is it’s time to tear down the house. When people’s ideologies are entrenched in emotion and dogma and not logic hearts and minds can’t be changed willingly. Screw diplomacy. It doesn’t work…see The Middle East. Within our own borders we stand on the threshold of political disparity similar to that which we faced pre WWII. This is no time to be Neville Chamberlain. This is a time to be Harry Truman. I’d rather die trying to reshape this country back into a semblance of what our Founding Fathers wanted it to be than continue to live in an environment that inches closer and closer to European style socialism every day.

    Too much of anything is bad for you. That includes freedom. The successful practice of freedom and liberty requires the succcessful practice of discipline. Last time I checked the only rehab available for people that abuse freedom , or the freedom and liberty of others is war.

    To quote Mills Lane, LET’S GET IT ONNNNNNN!

  30. the dude says:

    The real problem mike,
    is that our government has used those divisions, racial, religious and monetary to their advantage.
    While everybody is bickering about these petty things the money people robberbaron wolves are raiding the hen house and keeping us in perpetual “war”.

  31. harley says:

    wtf….you’re kidding me….the 2 guys fell for that
    are you two guys serious….smarmyman and chuck…you used black angel as a spring board
    to continue your vile racist/hate filled/violence promoting language? Are you serious??????
    I posted that ! I found it on some obscure blog and thought it was funny. It’s a joke. Don’t know who
    wrote it but its a freaking joke!!!!!! Noone would write that stuff…a black comedy guy might but not
    someone with any brains. It was a big joke!!!!!! It was a fake!!!!! I posted it to bring some humor to this
    board and what happened…you twon guys take a laughing toungue in cheek comment thats
    do devoid of substance and use it to further your hate speech….are you two guys serious?
    You fell for that. I thought it would be funny and we’d all get a laugh from it. Have hearne check it…i posted it
    to bring humor/some levity/some smiles to the conversation.
    But leave it to our resident purveyors of hate/violence/death/murder and outright despicable speech that would
    embarras any god loving christian (including the bible) and make even the most right wing nuts in america
    say “whoaaa….these guys are not just nuts…they’re way out there in another level”
    They used a joke to spin their hate speech…”this is an african american nation”…since when boys? Are you
    serious. I thought black angel comments were a huge joke til i read what the dynamic duo wrote.
    Can anyone believe what this stuff they wrote is about. It was all a big fabrication…a parody on the whole
    situation…and you guys come up with about an hour dissertation to use that as a way to spin the crap you
    print….wow boys….the heat is getting to you. and smarmyman uses that parody to spin about obamas
    social security number? are you serious.
    the old saying goes “a fool and his money go separate ways”…..update is “a fool and his mind go separate ways”
    It was a joke…a joke son (as the cartoon character said on tv)….it was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. chuck says:

    War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
    +1 Dude and Smarty

  33. chuck says:

    You copied an pasted it, its just once removed idiot.
    This is real, go tell your buddy Black Angel he is kicking ass.

    We grow weary of saying it, but…

    If such crimes happened in reverse — white on black — it would be front-page, international news.

    Thirza Sweeten, 79, murdered

    In New Jersey 45-year-old Samuel Kevin Davis was charged with the beating death of 79-year-old Thirza Sweeten in March, 2012. Blunt force and sharp force trauma were listed as cause of death. [source]

    I’ve never heard of a middle-aged white male invading a black woman’s home where he beat and stabbed her to death.

    The question is: Why to blacks attack elderly whites?

    The media occasionally rehearses the term “dead old white men” to imply our nation was founded by and for white people on the backs of abused slaves. Could such provocative attitudes excuse black-on-white violence?

    Anonymous woman, 76, raped and beaten, Comments Harley?

    In Louisiana a 76-year-old woman was brutally beaten and raped in June of this year by three black males. The woman had just arrived home from church. Police said that 18-year-olds Ladandrick Jones and Michael Campbell along with 19-year-old Emmanuel Bogan grabbed the victim in her carport. “They physically restrained her, drug her into the residence and that’s where the physical assault and ultimately the sexual assault took place.” [source]

    In spite of all the rhetoric about white privilege — that whites have the system rigged to their advantage — I’ve never heard of white males invading an elderly black woman’s home then beating and raping her.

    I wonder why blacks attack elderly white people.

    There was one incident that captured the attention of the national media.

    Maybe Black Angel is an elderly Black man Harley, ask him to explain this phenomenon.

    George Leroy Baker III, 81, murdered

    In 2010 an 81-year-old white man was beaten to death on the streets of Lynchburg, Virginia. George Leroy Baker III was visiting from Arizona to attend his granddaughter’s wedding. While walking the placid streets of Lynchburg late at night, Baker encountered a group of black adolescents, described by the media as “teens”.

    One of the young black males reportedly boasted that he was going to beat up the next white person he saw, reports said. That person was Baker. His black friends joined the attack. Though in excellent physical condition for an 81-year-old, Baker died from the painful attack.

    Kenneth Davis, Jr. was sentenced to 35 years after being found guilty of first-degree murder. [source]

    Educators recite the brutal acts of slavery in America; old white plantation owners forcing hordes of lowly blacks to labor endlessly in the hot Dixie sun. They never mention that many blacks were owned by free black families, that few slaves lived on plantations, or that slaves lived better than many whites, such a Abe Lincoln in his tiny, one-room log cabin.

    Still I wonder: Why do blacks murder elderly white folks? I’ve never heard of a white teen boasting he would beat the next black person he saw, then attack an 81-year-old white man with his friends. Hell ask harley!

    Kenneth Athey, 82, stabbed, beaten; burned

    An 82-year-old white man was attacked by a hammer-wielding black teenager in 2008. The victim, now 87, sat in court last month as his young attacker was sentenced. In his statement to the court, the elderly Kenneth Athey read aloud, “Even after four years it

  34. Robert says:

    all your garbage is just that garbage
    Harley made both of you look like the fools you are. The KKK has an open blog. Thats a better place for your trash!

  35. harley says:

    hahahaha….smarmyman and chuck:
    you look like complete asses now. I can see what you’re all about. Smarmyman and his gay bullshit and chuck with
    his racist never ending crap. Did either of you serve in the military. Either of you do any volunteer projects/charity work?
    I know you didn’t . Its just the common never ending flow of hate/hate/hate. Give yourselves a break. You have shown
    yourselves to be the jackasses many people knew you were. Now get back to playing army! hahahahaha

  36. chuck says:

    Harley, if we took an exothermic torch and cut our way
    through your thick skull, we would find 1/2 of Robert’s brain.

    Go straight to the KKK shit when you don’t like the facts. P. Moynihan-“Your entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.”

    The facts may make you uncomfortable, but they are what they are.

    When you cowards look into the mirror, after selling your kids down the drain, the engine between your ears produces nothing more than Charpentier pupils.

  37. chuck says:

    BTW shit heel,
    I was in the military from 1969 to 1973.

    I drink coffee every morning than shit bigger than you.

  38. mike says:

    You can cite anecdotal evidence all day but it is just that. I’m sure all of these cases are true. I don’t doubt that. Where I am going to disagree with you is that this is not indicative of the behavior of ALL black people. Just as there were white people that fought and died to free black people from slavery, there are millions of decent law abiding black people who hate this crime more than anybody.

  39. the dude says:

    All it takes is a few hundred thousand bad apples to spoil it for everybody else.

  40. smartman says:

    You are correct. This behavior is not indicative of all black people. Based on current statistics it’s indicative of the behavior of about 48% of black people.

  41. chuck says:

    I don’t dissagree with ya at all.

    That said, we as human beings survive in a world where generalizations are part of our innate ability to survive. It gets cold in the winter in the midwest, although there are warm days. The sun comes up in the… You get my drift.

    Now if we insist on not speaking about, or addressing a dangerous phenomenon, an approaching hurricane, or tornado and put ourselves at risk, and our neighbors at risk, then we of course would be idiots.

    We are idiots. We have met the enemy and it is us!

    The politically correct attitude and behaviour with respect to the outrageously dissproportionate amount of violent crime committed by African Americans is to 2nd party the blame, obfuscate, lie, attack the source, or, as the main slream media does, ignore it and then pronounce to the world that you are proud that you are ignoring it.

    This is a galactically failed stratagem as is evidenced by the increasing violence and insanity which can be found on the internet everyday.

    The amount of black on white hate crimes, in addition to the amount of African American crime is as astonishing as our continued increase in capacity for new levels of violence every day.

    The first, the obvious first and important step in dealing with ANY problem, is recognizing the problem, assessing responsibility and bringing heat to bear on those same criminals.

    The unrepported slaughter of white and unreported slaughter of black Americans over the last 30 years and the oblique and slanted effort to report same, when and if it was reported is the most disgraceful episode in American Journalistic history.

    Had we face this cultural phenomenon 20 years ago honestly and spoke openly about it in the main strem media, it would have been over.

    Instead, we and our neighbors, black and white alike, have been force fed a narrrative of pernicious lies and revisionist history that fits a paradigm which enables shit heels to make bank on the backs of the dead.

    That, is my opinion.

    Thanks for yours.

  42. chuck says:

    By the way, just for clarification, you mentioned “anecdotal” evidence.

    Unfortunately, I am the reliquary of a great deal of personal anecdotal evidence of violent African American behviour, but the facts that I list, occassionly with URLs are just that. Facts.

    Thanks again.

  43. smartman says:

    I did not serve in the military. Your mom and I used to play Pearl Harbor though. I’d lay down and she would blow the hell out of me for three hours.

  44. smartman says:

    What would Martin Do?
    I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
    Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
    But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.
    In a sense we have come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
    It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.” But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check — a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children.

    It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro’s legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.
    But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.
    We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. They have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone.
    As we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, “When will you be satisfied?” We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied, as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro’s basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating “For Whites Only”. We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.
    I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.
    Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair.
    I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.”
    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
    I have a dream today.
    I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
    I have a dream today.
    I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.
    This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.
    This will be the day when all of God’s children will be able to sing with a new meaning, “My country, ’tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim’s pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring.”
    And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!
    Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!
    Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California!
    But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia!
    Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee!
    Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
    And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”

  45. martin luther king says:

    The microphone must have gone off when I mentioned-
    The content of character.

  46. mike says:

    what is ashamed to me is
    we still are not judging people by the content of their character. Much of the black leadership is as least as much to blame for it as well by playing the race card everytime someone disagrees with them on a policy. Disagreeing with someone of a different race on something does not make you a racist.

  47. smartman says:

    I think we do judge people by the content, or lack thereof, of their character. Whether it’s black on black crime, or Mexican drug cartels killing innocent Mexicans to send a message, the majority of man’s inhumanity to man, sans US Imperialism, is perpetrated by people of color.

  48. mike says:

    I agree with you about the crime rate being higher in certain parts of society. Where I disagree with you is that you are judging whole ethnic groups by the “content of their character”. Dr. King was talking about judging individuals by the “content of their character”. That is a completely different concept.

  49. BarKeeper says:

    There is a Tipping Point, Black Angel
    Black criminals and other scofflaws are under the mistaken impression that they can push and push, assault, steal, loot , carjack, and rob, and do various hate crimes (Raytown jogger) and that the white folk will just keep absorbing such horrid behavior.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. Making that assumption places you in dire straits.

    Black Angel (if you aren’t a figment of Glazer’s mind)….you don’t possess the vivid imagination or depth of understanding to even remotely grasp what a push-back by the other side might even look like. Your mind is not equipped to visualize the results if this sleeping dog, as you view it; should it wake up and be cranky.

    You still only represent around 13% of the population, yet by FBI figures, you do almost two-thirds of the crimes. Even a half-witted ground squirrel can see a problem with these statistics.

    You are vastly outnumbered and monumentally out-gunned, if that’s where your thinking resides. You don’t want to see what the other side is capable of if you finally get them fired up. It wouldn’t be pretty, and you most certainly wouldn’t like it.

  50. Chris Rock says:

    the of July is a white person’s holiday.
    Here is the proof. More asaults and idiotic shit fucks ruining everything they touch.


    Independence Day. Independence from what? No longer is it Independence from the tyranny of a monarchy, it is Independence from a 5th column of violent ferel cretins with criminal intent 24/7.

  51. chuck says:

    Chris, don’t forget Philly


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