OTC: Bowls Bite / Chiefs Need Win Over Cardinals


“For those who want a college football playoff, you have that right now in the Big 12 the next few weeks!”
Gary Barnett, 810 AM
GH: Barnett is spinning fairytales but unfortunately neither Steven St. John or Nate Bukaty challenged his inane comment. Like most college football coaches, Barnett doesn’t want anything to do with a postseason tournament that would eliminate the need for the worthless bowls. The truth is, none of the Big 12 teams have a chance at winning the national title this season – and they haven’t since October. But a playoff would mean mediocre coaches couldn’t claim success with a six- or seven-win season and gaining the popular but worthless “bowl eligibility” label. Here is what the opening round of a 16-team single-elimination playoff might look like using the current BCS standings.
Oregon vs. Virginia Tech
TCU vs. Oklahoma
LSU vs. Michigan St.
Wisconsin vs. Oklahoma St.
Stanford vs. Alabama
Nebraska vs. Ohio St.
Boise St. vs. Arkansas
Auburn vs. Missouri
Tell me again why we need the bowls?
“Bill Snyder’s not going to throw the game plan out the window. He’s going to stay with the running game.”
Dave Lapham, with KSU down 31-14 with 2:11 remaining in the game, FoxSports MW
GH: Unless Snyder’s game plan for the Mizzou game included a large dose of desperation plays – including one of the ugliest fumblerookskie plays I’ve witnessed – CBS tossed his game plan to the wind far too early in the Mizzou loss. I would even go as far to say that I have more faith in Snyder’s team than he does.
“Here comes Moe…and you’ve got Larry, Curly and Shemp throwing blocks for him.”
Dave Lapham, TV analyst for KSU/Mizzou game describing the replay of a TJ Moe run, FoxSports MW
“They (Nebraska) are hell bent on making everyone in this conference hate them!”
Nate Bukaty, on Nebraska’s final tour of the Big 12, 810 AM
GH: Bukaty worked the sideline for the KU radio broadcast in Lincoln. He was incensed that Nebraska was throwing the football with under a minute to play with a 20-3 lead. He spent a good portion of the first hour of his Monday morning show ripping Pelini for this act. Read on.
“I thought the Nebraska fans showed a lot of class for booing their own coach for trying to run up the score (on Kansas). I have no issue with Nebraska fans because on the whole I think they’ve been a classy bunch.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: I watched the game on Time Warner’s PPV and I too thought the last-minute passes were classless. Pelini is a very different kind of head coach. He doesn’t have the poise to control his volatile emotions and he really doesn’t care what his fans or opponents think of him. When asked what it meant to him that the Kansas / Nebraska series was ending after 120 years, he shrugged and said, “I don’t care.” It is not difficult to see why the rest of the Big 12 is not going to be rooting for NU when they move to the Big 10.
“If (Taylor Martinez) doesn’t improve to 100% health-wise, Texas A&M can certainly win that game.”
Todd Leabo, 810 AM
“It seems to me looking at Nebraska they’re a little bit confused about who they are and they lack a little confidence.”
Gary Barnett, 810 AM

“I think there is a very real chance that Nebraska loses this week to Texas A&M.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman picks Nebraska to lose almost every week, but this week he has some company. There is a lot of talk about Nebraska getting beat this week in College Station. I counted Mizzou’s win there as their most impressive win in years – including the Oklahoma win. The Aggies have completely changed everyone’s opinion of their worth. This one will be fun to watch.
“I don’t care if I lose Nebraska listeners! You can find another radio station! Good luck with that!”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: KK knows that while there are many Nebraska fans who listen to his program, he understands there are thousands more fans who despise Nebraska. He plays to the majority of his audience almost every time. It is called being a good businessman. An annoying businessman at times, but successful nonetheless. 
“I don’t think there is a great team in the Big 12 this season.”
Mike DeArmond, PowerMizzou.com
GH: I agree with Daddy D on this one. If Nebraska is the league’s best, that is proof enough we are watching good but not great football this season here in B12 country. I do think there is far more parity in the B12 this season than maybe any other. But while that makes for some exciting Saturdays, it doesn’t excite the BCS folks.
“What are you talking about???”
Nate Bukaty, after Steven St. John gave one of the more detailed retellings I’ve ever heard of the plot for the movie, All The Right Moves, 810 AM
GH: SSJ’s commentary included the obscure team names, exact dialogue and the names of even ancillary characters – Salvucci, Rifleman, and of course Tom Cruise’s Stefen Djordjevic. It did not surprise me in the least that the pop-culture sheltered Bukaty had no clue about this 1983 classic high school football movie. Read on.
“Was Dauber in it?”
Nate Bukaty, when told that Craig T. Nelson played the part of Cruise’s coach in the movie, 810 AM
“I wouldn’t go so far as to say (Carl Peterson’s) going to be involved with the Dolphins next year but there’s some talk. Some chatter. If a change is made at the top with Parcells already having one foot out the door. Peterson might be the guy because he and Stephen Ross (the Dolphins majority owner) have this relationship.”
Adam Kuperstein, Miami sports anchor, talking to Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: Petro gleaned this nugget in his interview with Kuperstein, from one of his Two-Minute Drill segments. This informative segment where Petro interviews members of the media around the country is one of the best on local radio. Petro is far from smooth or even entertaining when it comes to a sports talk show host. But what he does deliver is solid information better than any other host in the city. He sometimes packages his info in a far too fact-filled blur for my taste, but his very loyal audience doesn’t seem to mind.
“So far everything’s pretty good (here in Minnesota). Of course it’s not winter yet. I’m about to freeze my nuts off.”
Scott Fujita, former Chiefs’ linebacker and current Browns’ player, in an interview with Scott Fujita, Jim Rome Show
GH: Rome, who drops callers for even the slightest sexual reference or comments about their twigs and berries, never blinked at Fujita’s frozen nuts drop. Instead, Rome appeared to pretend to not hear the comment and just buzzed right on with the interview. 
“I haven’t rooted for anybody or any team since I got into the business. That’s the code.”
Jim Rome, Jim Rome Show
GH: I used to hear this “code” from old-time journalists. It never made sense to me then and it doesn’t today. There are far more members of the media now who are unafraid to state which teams they root for and against. I think it makes them more credible and real. Do you want your info coming from someone who doesn’t understand the passion of following a sports team? I think you can be a fan and be objective.
“Journalism has changed even since we’ve been in college because of message boards, Twitter and all that nonsense.”
Bob Fescoe, 810 AM
GH: Twitter is the most misunderstood medium of our time. It is also the most powerful vehicle for gathering information in an unbelievably short span of time. I depend on it for news gathering and entertaining dialogue. It is far from nonsense but it is difficult to describes it’s worth without experiencing it’s power.
“Nobody. I don’t ever go on that thing. I don’t need to know what anybody is doing.”
Matt Cassel, when asked by Soren Petro who he follows on Twitter, 810 AM
GH: Cassel’s response if similar to most who don’t understand how Twitter can be used. Try it. You’ll like it.
11-17 nw football.jpg“You guys won’t give my school (Northwest Missouri State) the time of day! 45 Conference wins in a row 45!  And by next weekend it should be 46 with yet another spot for the 6th year in a row in the Divisions II playoffs and Conference Championship. We own 3 National Championships, more than MU, KU and K-State combined. NW has been to the elite 8 twice in the last 15 years or so in basketball.  Yet for some reason that is not good enough for these better than thou writers that think the only good sports is DI. Northwest Missouri State has had to carry the football banner for this state for the last 15 years or so and journalists still won’t give us the time of day because we are not DI. Open your blind eyes and look.  Plus we are a lot of fun!”
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GH: High school fans, D2 football fans, women’s sports fans all have the same bitch – the mainstream media won’t pay any attention to us! It is not because the media doesn’t respect, enjoy and follow your sports and your teams. It is because the vast, vast, vast majority of sports fans do not. The media exists to sell advertising. Period. All that other gobbledygook about ethics, journalistic standards, two sources, blah,blah,blah is as worthless as rice cakes without an advertiser to pay for the message. Enjoy the pub your Bearcat football teams get from the local newspaper, school blogs, etc. It is as good as you’re going to get no matter how many times you travel to Rains-Every-Year, Alabama to battle another team no one knows or cares about.
“We found that this quarterback (Matt Cassel) is a pretty damn good quarterback when given the chance to show it.”
Tim Grunhard, on Cassel’s big day in Denver, 810 AM
GH: Cassel gets a lot of people fired up because he signed a ridiculously huge contract and he just doesn’t look the part of a franchise quarterback. His numbers though, are very good. I think he’ll be a guy who plays his best football in his mid-30s…and most likely somewhere other than Kansas City.
“I think people are too quick to say those yards (Cassel racked up late against Denver) didn’t matter.”
Kurtis Seaboldt, 810 AM
GH: Too many people are pointing to those Denver yards as justification for Cassel’s salary and role as the Chiefs’ franchise quarterback. If the play of the Chiefs defense continues to decline, Cassel’s play will not matter. But he should be good enough to get the Chiefs to 9 wins this season. Anything less after a 5-2 start will be considered failure.
“Is Matt Cassel the problem on this team? I would say no. He is having the kind of Trent-Green jump in his second year that we talked about.”
Soren Petro, after reading Cassel’s season stats, 810 AM
“Why does everybody on your station defend Cassel? I don’t know, because we get it.”
Soren Petro, responding to a listener questioning the strong backing WBH’s hosts give Cassel, 810 AM
75100_chiefs_broncos_football“I’m a little worried about Brian Waters. I’m not sure if he’s hurt but the last three or four games he’s struggled mightily against a bunch of different guys. He’s got to get that straightened out.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM
GH: Waters has been getting beat the past month, sometimes in ugly fashion. If he’s hurt, as well as Moeaki, Dexter and a list of other starters, the Chiefs could drop this home game to a hungry Arizona club.
“There’s no reason whatsoever for the Chiefs to lose this football game (to Arizona).”
Nick Wright, 610 AM
“I think you’re going to get the best punch the Chiefs have to throw this week (against Arizona).”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
“If the Chiefs lose this game Sunday (against Arizona), I am going to consider them dead (for the playoffs). If the Chiefs can’t beat this team this Sunday. They’re done. They’re cooked. The math would still tell us they’re in it – not for me.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: In the NFL you are almost never out of it…especially in the mediocre AFC West. I think the Chiefs should be able to keep their playoff hopes alive through the holidays even if the Cardinals happen to trip the hobbled Chiefs up on Sunday.
“I still think (the Chiefs) are gonna finish 9-7 or maybe 10-6. But they’ve got to turn things around here real quick.”
Tim Grunhard, 810 AM
“You know and you’re not saying, right? I got no problem with that.”
Kevin Kietzman, after Mitch Holthus refused to divulge the cause of Todd Haley’s leg injury, 810 AM
GH: Holthus’ response to KK when asked about Haley’s injury was, “He hasn’t told you? Then you’re going to have to get the answer from him.” Holthus did not sound playful. He was serious. Kietzman laughed and told him he completely understood his silence. So am I the only guy who thinks this is ridiculously weird? Are the Chiefs really that controlling that even talk about the coach’s injuries are forbidden? Since no reason was given I’ll make one up… Haley pulled his right groin, quad and Achilles when he kicked at Charlie Weis while they wrestled on the locker room floor in front of the team and media earlier this week. His kick toward Weis’ balls was deftly deflected by Weis’ silver cane. Weis, unknown to Haley, perfected his cane defensive moves as a young child while attending a Jedi camp led by the ageless Yoda.
“We’re done with this for now. I don’t know what’s transpiring right now at the Kansas City Power & Light District.”
Kevin Kietzman, breaking away from 810’s live coverage of the Wizards’ muddled and confusing announcement of their name change to Sporting Kansas City, 810 AM
“We will bring a Super Bowl to Kansas City! Mark my words!”
Bob Fescoe, 610 AM
GH: I’m not sure who the “we” is that Fescoe references but it appears The Bulldog may have other concerns that have to do with his job. 610 Sports has paired Fescoe and Shan Shariff for the past two days and quietly slipped a “guest host” in place of Shariff for the mid-morning show. It appears to be an audition for this guest host who has recently spent time on the radio in Omaha and Des Moines. Just my guess but with Fescoe’s contract up in January, I would think 610 is considering axing The Bulldog and sliding Shariff into the morning drive slot.
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29 Responses to OTC: Bowls Bite / Chiefs Need Win Over Cardinals

  1. Redfan says:

    Why would anyone care….
    about the series with KU ending for Nebraska? Fact is, it hasn’t been pretty, even when KU got theirs, they kicked the crap out of Nebraska. I wouldn’t expect Pelini to give a crap and I’d rather he just state that than blow a bunch of smoke up my ass about how it’s steeped in tradiition, blah, blah, blah. Gotta disagree with you here Greg.

    All the Right Moves….excellent movie. "We’ll never beat those rich pricks".

  2. Gavin says:

    Greg, if you’re talking about the linebacker who used to play football for the Chiefs, his name is Scott Fujita. If you’re talking about the mascot for a Mexican food chain restaurant, carry on.—————————–

    Redfan, I’m surprised that a Nebraska fan wouldn’t at least feel a twinge of disappointment over losing the series with KU. I mean, it’s not enough to keep NU in the Big XII, but still. A fan base that in love with its own mythology (I went to the KU-NU game last week and even as a KU basketball fan I was surprised to see the self-aggrandizement and narcicissm behind putting up a sign that said "Through These Gates Walk The Greatest Fans In College Football." I thought KU hoops fans were in love with themselves, but Jesus.) is a fan base that loves its history. This takes Nebraska one step further from its glorious tradition and its glory years of national championships and the KU series is a piece of football history that Nebraska is walking away from. I’d expect the Greatest Fans In College Football to at least feel a pang of regret over that.————————By the way, Greg, no one loves to see you beat on Kietzman more than I love to see it, but you have to admit you were wrong about him and 810 when they signed that exclusive radio rights deal with the Chiefs. I believe you predicted that Kietzman would spend every waking hour giving the Chiefs a tongue bath and that hasn’t really happened.

  3. Johnny Utah says:

    No more playoff talk
    the college football playoff talk has been around for 20+ years. Enough! it’s as tired as whether pete rose should be in the hall of fame. sports radio geeks who have nothing to talk about can kill all the time they want with a playoff. Much more important: colleges changing conferences because of football money. this matters. ask Corn fans who no longer to make one-day trips to ames, manhattan, lawrence and columbia. now they get 8+ hour trips to the great lakes states. that matters to real fans.

  4. Greg says:

    KK’s Chiefs talk
    GH: Gavin, Don

  5. Greg says:

    College Football playoffs
    GH: Johnny, College football playoff talk is never going to get old — unless you’re a coach. The fact there isn

  6. harley says:

    YOU too were jumping on the chiefs bandwagon early on…just like
    sports experts like "glazer". Then you tempered your view…but
    I think you said you dont go to the games. Cheap ass…come out with
    the real fans and see what the games like in person instead of
    watching from your 19 inch motorola.As for the playoffs…again
    stfu. Won’t happen because tv netwroks don’t want college playoffs
    in december…and they definitely don’t want them interferring with
    the nfl playoffs in january.
    The bowls are fine….maybe you should get your head out and
    realize there’s more to life than football.
    And please…grab glazer as you guys get off the chiefs bandwagon
    because you 2 jinsxed the cheifs….
    Also…saw 4 chiefs players out this week at a johnson county
    restuarant/ bar. One had that ball cap turned sideways…others wore
    the ghetto clothes…another looked right out of a 50 cent video…
    are these guys thugs? sorry…not a great image for the team….
    and i was the only person who knew who they were.
    Theyre not getting much exposure individually and nnoone recognized
    them in public. However…regular patrons of the restuarant had some
    unusual double takes on the chiefs "possee"…….

  7. MrOlathe says:

    90% of the rules in golf?
    GH….I have to agree with you on Bukaty. As a KU grad, he embarrasses me. It’s brutal enough to listen to him drone on but god forbid he do the show solo. Wowzers! And I need some clarification from you: Please give me 5 rules of golf that you consider dumb.

  8. Cliffy says:

    Why do I have provide a headline?
    Thanks, Redfan, for validating my opinion of nU fans — clueless.¶
    Pelini — pissed his pants during a game. Isn’t smart enough to carry a hanky so he’s not blowing snot all over the place at Iowa State. As a human being, the guy is utterly pathetic.¶
    Fescoe is so bad I’m beginning to feel bad for him. Never thought I’d feel that way.¶
    I like your playoff scenario, Greg. That would be great. I hope I live to see the day …¶

  9. Redfan says:

    Really Cliffy?
    Soooo, when the Big 12 decided to kill off the NU vs. OU game every season it’s cool but I’m supposed to give a shit about KU????? WTF? The series was effing lopsided! I do, however, understand your hatred of Pelini….he basically owns the three area teams and I understand it pisses you off. Don’t worry, you won’t have to deal with ihim outcoaching the local crew anymore.

  10. Cliffy says:

    I love nU fans ….
    … so easy to get them riled up. They take the bait EVERY time. heh.

  11. Uncle Dick says:

    Bearcats, the Buffalo Bills of DII
    Those bowl games are so relavent, just like the Army- Navy game. I could always assertain how much I had to drink on New Year’s Eve by how much of the Rose Bowl I couldn’t remember.

  12. Gavin says:

    Kietzman’s Lips On Pioli’s Junk
    Yeah, it’s certainly possible that Kietzman has stopped orally polishing Pioli’s junk because Pioli hasn’t come through with very much in the way of exclusive stories and the like although I’m not sure that criticism from OTC has had the impact we’d all like to believe. Does anyone think Kietzman is suddenly going to stop manufacturing stories out of whole cloth simply because he gets called on it here? Greg, you’ve been calling out Kietzman for, if memory serves, well over a decade yet only about a year ago he was lying through his teeth about Mizzou having been invited to the Big Ten.—————————By the way, since the format change at KCC I’ve been having a harder time following everything so I apologize if I’m late on this one, but "Harley" is jojo, right? Can I get some sort of confirmation on this and could someone tell me why he changed his name?

  13. mark x says:

    … the Chiefs lose Sunday

  14. Cliffy says:

    Yep …
    Harley is jojo … i liked jojo better. Maybe he’ll provide more of an explanation but I think he said he had trouble registering and had to change his name. ¶
    As paranoid as KK is, I’m willing to bet he comes to this site every day.

  15. Greg says:

    GH: Top 5 Bad Rules In Golf
    GH: Mr. O … 1) The golfer is in charge of keeping his/her own score …
    2) Any scoring error on scorecard results in a DQ for the golfer …
    3) If the golfer doesn

  16. hammy says:

    oh redfan
    showing once again the N stands for Nowledge.

  17. Uncle Dick says:

    Same game, different name
    harley jo, a nut by any other name is still a nut. A Nash is still a Rambler, much like the new jojo.

  18. nick says:

    When Scott Pioli and Mitch Holthus come on the radio, I change the channel. It’s a 10-15 minute, non-informative sales pitch for the Chiefs, nothing more. //// I hope Fescoe stays. I thinkhe and Klingler make a decent radio team for local sports. Sharif is talented and interesting, but many times he sounds like the Easterner, non-Kansas Citian that he is. If your guess is correct, they’d have a lineup of Sharif 6-9, New Guy 9-11, Rome 11-2. In addition, they’d have a talented, but very much "acquired taste" and green host in Nick Wright in the drive time. Not sure that’s smart on 610’s part, going up against 810, who’s hosts are all Kansas Citians who "get" the KC sports scene….even if they, as a group, are way too geeky, nerdy and non-funny/entertaining. I’ll give props to Fescoe/Klingler/Sharif/Rome/Wright for their many attempts at trying to be funny and irreverant and entertaining, and many times succeeding.

  19. Gavin says:

    I’m Kinda With Nick
    While I’ve not been impressed with Fescoe and Wright is definitely both an "acquired taste" and a work in progress, I think that getting away from KC guys is probably not helpful for 610 in the long run. I don’t see Arbitron numbers very much, but my understanding is that Petro kicks Jim Rome’s ass with reckless abandon, locally speaking. The national perspective is already available with ESPN, ESPN Radio and the web. I have satellite radio, but when I listen to sports stuff, its usually the local stations. I think 810 understands this and thats why they’re so dominant. Obviously, they have better talent (wheher you think Kietzman is talented and whether you like him or not, you can’t deny that lots of people listen to him) but Rome is also very talented but people like Petro because he makes it about the teams people in KC follow.

  20. MrOlathe says:

    1) In tournament play, you exchange cards with your fellow competitors on the 1st tee. In casual play (most common), one guy keeps score for all. 2) A golfer is only DQ’d if he signs for a LOWER score than what actually occurred. 3) Just confirming it’s accuracy, not sure why that is stupid. 4) See # 2. 5)Practice and get better.

    If KK says something outlandish and factually incorrect, then you would call him out. You should be held to the same standard.

  21. Tim says:

    Okay, Greg, so Pelini is just a "different kind of coach" as you describe him, but the douchbag you have made Haley out to be. Double standard much?

  22. Tim says:

    Don’t get me wrong GH
    I come here regularly to read your articles and have followed you for years since the days at the Star (which I read every Sunday morning for your article) to now. I always enjoy your peices and the Neilboniics series ruled! I just think on this subject you are letting your predisposed dislike for Haley get in the way. I have no problem with what Haley snubbing Mcdaniels. Hell I wish more players and teams truly hated their opposition. it would make the game that much better. This isn’t chess, this is a rip your head off and run it down your throat sport. Imagine the intensity if the players truly hated their rivals? So i thought you went overboard on your criticism (from the looks of the comments, others did too) and was curious as to why you are so much less critical of your alma maters coach. Never heard you call for his suspension.

  23. Greg says:

    GH: Golf and Haley
    GH: Mr. O, My golf reference was made in jest rather than an indictment on the royal and ancient game. I love smacking whitey in the butt and going to find him to once again lather him into the sky with a shiny blade.

  24. MrOlathe says:

    I guess
    GH….I guess I’ll take you at your word that you were speaking "in jest" I just get a little sensitive when I hear or read somebody stating something that is just flat wrong. And so I find it my duty to set the record straight.

  25. Rainbow Man says:

    what did the big ten
    ever do to KK? Geez.. doesn’t he realize there are a &^#@load of Big Ten alums living here now and sending their kids to KU and K-State?

  26. theKCeye says:

    I concur on Twitter and Cassel
    A few things (that I would LOVE to emphasize with LINE BREAKS)—– I couldn’t agree with you more about Twitter. As a fairly new member of the so-called blogosphere, I cannot describe to you how essential it has been to getting things going and letting people know, who are interested, that I have something new to offer. Most of my friends still frown when I mention Twitter. I find it odd. People just don’t know what they’re missing (if used correctly).———————I also agree with you on how we should judge Cassel. I couldn’t care less how many yards he throws for or what his QB rating is. Wins and losses, baby.. that’s all that matters. Recently blogged about it here (wish I could hyperlink) – http://kceye.blogspot.com/2010/11/chiefs-passing-attack-should-be-judged.html ———————————-And Greg, I wanted to mention KC Confidential can mark me down as one of the readers who is very pleased to see more frequent OTC columns recently. It’s fairly unique and hence has become a must-read for me. Keep em coming!

  27. John says:

    Bearcats the defending champs.
    Uncle Dick, Northwest is the defending D2 champs. That’s the Bills?

  28. Rainbow Man says:

    pelini has a problem… and so does nu
    I have been a Nebraska defender here. But Pelini needs to cool it. He does not fit. Osborne will can him.

  29. bschloz says:

    Damaged Goods
    Rainbow Man….If it were me I’d of canned him after the game. Sorry but that dude is out of fucking control…I don’t see how he reflects the great fans and traditions of NE. I was embarrassed for him and college football by the way he handled himself. All that aside that was one of the most entertaining football games I’ve seen in ages. I would love to see a big time game at College Station.

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