OTC: Royals Lose 19-1 To Twins / Big 12 Weighs In On Nebraska’s Departure
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SM
Does Nick Wright ever actually talk about sports? Seems like he spends more time criticizing other members of the media than actually doing his job. Does he aspire to knock off KK or Greg Hall? He would say the former; his actions suggest the latter.
And Greg, in response to your question “Does KK really think this shtick works?”…I would think a quick look at the ratings at any point in the last decade would answer that adequately. Over-the-top or not, it very clearly has worked for a long, long time.
Ptolemy
Without listening to their comments, anybody could predict that the South schools would be indifferent to Nebraska thinking they are better than everybody else, and in Texas’ case, they’d do so after a long laugh in the face of the fact that the Huskers were 1-7 against the Longhorns. As for the rest of the North, what stupendous feats have the Huskers achieved since TO left to make everyone else anything less than peeved that somebody from the state of Nebraska believes that their shit doesn’t stink?
Mangino was right when he complained about the officials favoring Texas when he had them on the ropes several years ago in a game that would have cost them a BCS bid. It’s not an organized thing, but you can damn well bank it, if you’ve watched Big 12 officiating over the years, that if the call is a close one emotional leanings will play a part in the call, and Nebraska is going to have a heap of that on the negative end this season.
nick
I must be in the minority of listeners, ’cause over the summer doldrums of sports talk, I’ve been most comfortable listening to Josh Klingler’s reasoned positions against Fescoe. Occassionally I listen to Rome and Nick Wright for the humor and entertainment.
I’m done with KK and Petro until late August. KK’s living in Bizarro World or someting. Petro’s over-analyzing of everything is tedious.
Last night, Mad Jack Harry finished his sports segment saying if the Chiefs don’t win at least 8 games, then Haley has to go.
HUH?!
Has crazy talk by the local sports media ever been THIS bad?
MrOlathe
I just don’t get the resentment to Nebraska. As a Kansas fan, I couldn’t be more indifferent. I travel KS, NE, & MO and KSU folks are in a tizzy. I just don’t get it. Can someone explain? PT?
MrOlathe
PT…That’s the 1st time I’ve ever heard a KSU fan acknowledge what a bullshit call that was. Mangino was right at the time. KU got fucked. It’s a shame that MM was hated so much by KSU fans…at the time.
Ptolemy
Mangino’s a monumental ass for the way he handled his exit from the KSU staff back in 98/99. That being said, none of us have ever demeaned his coaching ability. We still hate his ass, but he’s a fine football coach.
Mr.O, I don’t know about KStaters being “in a tizzy.” The explanation that best fits in characterizing Nebraska’s situation is they are running away from Texas and they are going to be facing considerable hostility from the fans, especially the old Big 8 ones, throughout this coming season.
MrOlathe
PT…not sure that “none of us have ever demeaned his coaching ability” is accurate. I’ve heard itfrom plenty of K-Staters. And although there are a lot of folks out there who aren’t happy about the Huskers exit, it appears that KSU is spewing the most venom. Most of the south is shrugging their shoulders, MU can’t believe it’s not them, ISU, well, they don’t really matter, CU is gone, and KU is mostly indifferent.
Ptolemy
I don’t think KU is indifferent. If they are, it’s sad because they had the longest running playing streak with Nebraska, and not caring about that ending is thumbing your nose at a lot of great players over the last 100+ years. But that is KU these days — all basketball and nothing else.
It might better be explained, with all the ancillary problems in Lawrence and the realization that they might be transitioning their football program from the likes of what Oklahoma went through going from Barry Switzer to Gary Gibbs, that they are simply occupied with other fears right now.
MrOlathe
Hmmm….no, I don’t think that’s it. Perhaps indifferent is not exactly the word I should use. Sad to see 100 years of competition go away. But never really a rival. And good for them. Had KU received the offer, we would have gone as well. And, although you may see it in your own purple eyes, the sum total of the employee theft that took place at Kansas might end up less than the “secret payoff” of your former football coach.
DonkeyPunch
Ptolemy sed:
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Cliffy
I followed Ketz on Twitter for about 2 days. WAY too much stuff. I think he’s kind of creepy.
Is this the second KK rant about signing Yost? I think I heard those same remarks over a week ago.
I think KSU, KU and MU were ALL sufficiently humbled by the near conference collapse. I don’t recall any conferences beating any of their doors down to become members. I do recall Bill Self whining and crying to anybody who would listen about KU getting the cold shoulder.
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GH: These comments were from KK’s Monday rant (his second sicne last week). He entertained us with a third today.
Interloper
I do find it very interesting that so many people have such short memories when it comes to the Big 12. Anyone thinking that the University of Nebraska is thumbing its nose at the rest of the conference is simply forgetting how the conference was formed and what the genesis was to many of the conference’s financial competitiveness and challenges. You don’t have to look much farther than Austin to be reminded.
So, when you’re holding up signs and yelling off-color remarks this fall that deride the university and its sports teams, you’ll do well to do a bit studying about the conference’ origins before hand.
If you want someone to blame, I suggest you mess with Texas.
MrOlathe
Bill Self whining? WTF Cliffy? I recall him accurately discussing some disappointment that football held all the cards, which he understood. He was confident that KU would end up OK. Which it did. And if the Big 12 had not remained intact, KU probably would have landed on its feet as well. Where? Not sure.
Cliffy
Self came across as a desperate whiner who was (justifiably) scared to death KU was about to get left in the dust because basketball doesn’t matter in conference realignment issues. Just sayin’.
Gavin
Cliffy, I had the same experience with Ketz. My Twitter feed simply got overloaded by the guy. I had to dump him.
I’m with Mr. Olathe. I don’t really recall Self whining. I do recall him expresssing some concerns, but as you noted, everyone affiliated with any of the “local” schools expressed those. Well, except Ptolemy, who was as sanguine as a special needs kid at snack time. He was never worried. But you were and I was. All Self did was give voice to the same concerns we had. You want to talk about people whinging and obfuscating and looking all “What?! We didn’t do anything!”, I’d look to the Governor’s mansion and the troika Nixon formed with Deaton and Alden. Now THAT was some epic whinging.
Cliffy
I’ve said before Mizzou admin looked stupid. For example, it was ridiculous and silly for Alden to hold a news conference to insist that Nebraska’s allegation that Missouri started it all was “ridiculous and silly.” The problem with some of you KU guys (like Mr. Arm Pit of Kansas …er … I mean Olathe)can’t seem to admit anybody at KU ever does anything wrong.
Gavin
The closest thing I could find to Self doing any “whining” was this, from the Lawrence Journal-World:
Asked if he was personally upset with CU, Self said:
Cliffy
Sounds a little whiney to me, Gavin. But thanks for sharing.
Gavin
Cliffy, I’ve actually grown to respect you quite a bit, but accusing Self of whining isn’t the same thing as being unable to admit we’ve done nothing wrong. You will recall my own posts where I used some rather strong language to express dismay over the ticket office scandal. I’ve also been up front about amditting that I was pretty damn scared during the conference realignemnt overreaction. And I’ve been pretty open about admitting Lew Perkins’ faults while also pointing out his strnegths. I realize that’s been just me and I don’t speak for anyone else, but I don’t think anyone has been here saying that the ticket scandal was anything other than bad, have they?
But to conflate KU’s supposed inability to admit to anything wrong with Bill Self somehow whining isn’t only inaccurate, it’s unfair. Self didn’t whine about anything. He just expressed his opinions and his concerns.
But I think it’s weird that on one hand you accuse him of whining but on the other you seem to want KU to acknowledge something was bad or went wrong. Separate the ticket scandal from conference realignment and tell me what KU did wrong regarding the whole realignment mess. I think our Chancellor was a bit out of touch, but other than that, I cna’t think of a single thing KU did wrong during the realignment talks. I’m sure you can, but we all admitted it was a huge concern, we all admitted we were possibly in trouble. What else do you want?
Gavin
Fair enough. I guess we have different definitions of whining. You apparently want KU to make some kind of admission but get to dictate whether that admission is somehow adequate. I think that making an admission isn’t the same thing as complainng. Tomayto tomahto.
Gavin
Hey Everybody! Gil Meche is done for the year! Awesome. And the gift of Trey Hillman overworking his starter keeps on giving.
MrOlathe
Clifford…do you really want me to break out the list of accolades that wonderful city of Olathe has received in the past 10 years? What are you gonna throw back at me? Kirksville? West Plains? Joplin? Cole Camp?
Cliffy
I respect you point, Gavin. But as is usually the case, you’re taking things too seriously.
When Bill Self speaks KU fans (like Mr. Asshole of the Metroplex … er I mean … Olathe) see Jesus Christ in a sweatsuit. Everybody else sees a stutterer with a bad toupe.
Gavin
I will absolutely concede that I take stuff too seriously, but just so we’re clear, we see a stutterer with a bad toupee too. We just see OUR stutterer with a bad toupee. Just like with Mangino we saw OUR mobidly obese tantrum-throwing coach. Sort of like how you can make fun of your own idiot kid, but other people can’t.
Uncle Dick
Olathe is one of the nicest cities in Mexico.
Cliffy
Fair enough, Gavin.
MrOlathe
Clifford…1st of all, they’re plugs. 2nd of all, i as well as most fans and I would assume reporters, appreciate Bill Selfs honest, from the hip answers to any and all questions. No coach speak. The guy is solid. Even most of my ksu and mu friends agree with that. And if you are making fun of the way Self speaks, what about Anderson? Ouch!
Cliffy
A lot of racists in Olathe, I presume?
MrOlathe
Didn’t you just poke fun at a person with a speech impediment?
Kia Zi
I really wanted the Royals to win. I just wish that, regardless of all the problems, the players would go out on the field and win their games. They are suppose to be professionals. I think they could do it if they wanted to. Conspiracy groups say that sports is politicaly controlled and that a small no body city like KC will never be champions because the big important guys always get the win and the money. But I wish the Royals would take the field and win, if for no other reason to just blow minds and prove every one wrong. Why can’t they win more of their games? It doesn’t make sense to lose all the time. I know someone has to be the loser but why does it always have to be the Royals?
Kia Zi
Oh yea, and go Mizzou!!!
Cliffy
Mr. ICan’tAffordtheNiceSuburbs: Founder of the NAABS (National Association for the Advancement of Bald Stutterers).
MrOlathe
Clifford…so you are saying that you would rather have Mike A as your coach because he has hair and doesn’t stutter? And I could go all double wide/meth jokey on you but if you’ve ever been to Olathe you’d probably wise up a bit.
jojo
Of all the idiots who got into this big 12
crap (including myself) the one person who
handled itall with the most class and
grace was Bill Self.
While everyone including myself) was playing up
football and how it was soooo important (including myself) bill sat there with his
thoughts to himself understanding that some people were taking his team for granted.
As much as I want to kick KU”s ass every year
in football and basektball…I still believe there is no classier/nicer/down to earth
coach than bill self.
Spent an hour talking with him at sullivans
one night and we had a ball…and I made him
make me one promise (which he did not fullfill)
…tht was that he take it easy on my mu tiger
basektball team last year.
Is KU basektball not big…hell yes it is….
and while I hope they always lose to my tigers
I still pull for them the rest of the season.
While i and others forgot about self…he
reacted to all the bullshit with his usual
classy personality.
jojo
does self stutter? never noticed.
wear a hairpiece…never noticed…
is he one of the best coaches in college
today and do I wish mu would have grabbed
him…helll yes!
MGarr
JoJo you continue to be an idiot