OTC: Are Chiefs Fans Confusing Patience w/ Apathy?

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23 Responses to OTC: Are Chiefs Fans Confusing Patience w/ Apathy?

  1. Anonymous says:

    Bukaty is right- you just can’t evaluate Matt Cassel’s performance based on the CRAP that surrounds him. The dude had a guy in his face EVERY SINGLE TIME he dropped back to pass last Sunday. Hell if I was Cassel I’d audible to run plays most of the time he’s instructed to pass. Branden Albert should be the ONLY returning starter on that O-line next year. The rest of them probably wouldn’t make the cut as reserves on most other NFL teams.

  2. Anonymous says:

    craig glazer
    Greg nice complete story of a sad tale…you and I have talked about…all this…before the season…and both agreed we would be this bad..we are.

    Like you I was a fan of Matt C’s,Scott and Todd, but I have to admitt, this thing is not headed, well, anywhere. Yes we have the least amount of talent ever put on an NFL field, but I just don’t see much positive direction from the top so far, QB,GM, and head coach…draft was an f-, as bad as it gets, we got uh, nothing, maybe an ok defensive guy,Jackson, thats a big maybe, so far a huge bust..he’s done close to nothing, ok he’s done nothing…
    The fan’s I can’t blame them, we have been a bad team for too long, lets face it, Dick’s team was bad too, flashy, but never for real..sorry we had the NFL’s worst D under him even in the somewhat phony 9-0 start and crappy ending in 03, we ended as a near joke…Indy never punted, and our D was footballs worst……ever….ever..

    Since Marty, we have built nothing, we have nothing, our team is crap and will continue to be…the way its going….for years …maybe decdades like the crapy Royals are…..

    The hope….MONEY…only fix is Clark Hunt and the no CAP, he has to buy a team and right now…Greg I agree we are way to far gone to be fixed in five drafts….We are empty….not one true NFL Star on the team…maybe and its still a maybe…Matt C will be one, not yet…and he is getting destroyed mentally and in everyway…but Matt..grow up….lead the team, he is not yet a leader….get out there and make something happen Matt…its on you to do that a bit….
    LJ….hey he is not any longer a good player so yeah, he gets jacked, did he do anything that bad..uh, not if he was say Marcus Allen or Adrian Petterson…but he isn’t…there are far worse crimes in the NFL recently than his…Vick, lets face it he was a major, major jerk and dog killer for no good reason, bad guy…Ray Lewis….lets face it he was directly involved in murder and he knew it…so on and so on….end with this, Would Ali have been charged with Rape as was Tyson in same circumstance…then sent to prison…answer NO…he was too good and too popular…ala Coby Bryant, same thing…and by the way I don’t Coby or Tyson were guilty…do you…?

    We all just keep saying the same things…our sports teams are terrible now so is KU and MU, so sad…oh well Jayhawks Basketball soon…thats about all we got…

  3. Anonymous says:

    truly the chiefs will be the havenots. According
    to the bookies in vegas, the odds of a team turning around quickly anymore are pretty
    tough. Because of the caps and other incentives
    for players to stay with a team, there won’t be
    the movement of players that’s been seen in the
    past. That means team with the best eye for
    talent and the best packages to keep talent on
    that team will be winners.
    Bad teams stay bad from here on out. Oakland/
    KC/Detroit/and other teams have been bad and
    the outlook remains that they will stay bad.
    Why? According to people smarter than me, the
    good players/impact players are not moving.
    They are staying. Of course there will be some major player moves but now with caps at 100 million a team can afford to hold onto their
    best players for a longer length of time.
    And with tv revenues drying up, fans not showing
    up, and other economic problems teams will have
    to not reach the cap limits arev easily as they
    did before.
    For Hunt, the outlook is bleak. You have a new
    coach, a new scheme and you have a major revolt
    about to occur between players and coaches.
    I’ve heard one player say that the offense and
    defense palyers are so tense now that there will
    be a major blowup soon that could kill the
    teams “rebuilding” year.
    Hunt’s an ass. He’s not putting money back into the team. He says screw the next few years, I
    have money coming in from shared profits and I
    can outlast the economy. His renovated bathrooms offically open next year so he can
    skate with that bullshit marketing campaign
    and still get some good crowds. Problem is that next years home schedule won’t be as attractive as this years was. That means some serious
    cash shortfalls at arrowhead next year.
    Also, st. joe training camp could pump up the
    fans next year and that could be a way to get
    enthusiasm up for the team.
    However, new laws are lurking on capital gains in the next few years. Hunt if smart might want to
    think about selling the team and making off like a bandit with 800 million bucks. If the gains
    taxes change, Hunt’s investment takes a hit.
    More importantly, jackson county and kcmo are
    broke. The rich jackoffs looted what money was
    left in the coffers and now someones got to pay
    the piper.
    Of course to the fans this means nothing. Except
    that if both the royals and cheifs continue to
    slide revenues willnot meet outlays and we could
    see all hell break loose.
    Hunts a mother fucker. He continues to screw the
    incredible fans here in kc. While his dad
    waspassionate about the team and the game itself,
    clark is passionate about the money..and nothing
    but the money.
    Underspending the cap this year was met by announcements that therevwere no good players
    to go after. True. But next year the player pool
    gets even less attractive and we’re stuck with the current players strggling to win 1 or 2
    Its the perfect storm for the cheifs. And the
    perfect storm to kill the royals. The owners
    waited too long to make their moves. Both should
    have gotten name/experienced coaches quickly
    and rebuilt the farmsystems. It’s going to be
    a long/long road to respectability and wins in
    this town and an even longer road for the
    county and city…and an even worse drive for
    those of us who still love our teams.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Johnny Utah
    So crazy old Lamar scares Kansascitians into passing a sales tax to give a quarter billion dollars to the chiefs, they put in some more women’s bathrooms and bank the rest, and now the Chiefs are a “have-not?”

    Kansas City, you’re getting what you deserve. Stop going to games.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Uncle Dick
    No fire in their bellies. Grab the big check on Tuesday, get beat Sunday. I’m ready for those 22 guys. There’s four or five of my good ol’ boy neighbors that would be happy to suit up, get jazzed on some of that pro joy juice, and beat the hell out of some strangers without fear of going to the Clay County Jail. About $25,000 a game and a couple of combine payments, and I’ll bring you some of the meanest MF’s since the Longest Yard. With the money they’d save, they could buy The Unicoach some decent clothes. Maybe if he looks like Hank(Stram, not Kimble),he could win a few games with some of those cats from the hood, KCK, Orrick, and North East. Give me some gangbangers,rednecks, and wiseguys. We might not win, but we’ll cover the spread.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Holy shit! Glazer gives us the WAR and jojo adds the PEACE. Nice! Guess KK was sick in Catholic School the day they talked about marital fidelity and blow jobs. The penis is for making babies only Kevin. KC is the capial of style over substance. In another decade we’ll be sucking the twin-tipped Magnaflows known as Omaha and Des Moines.

    Man, I see in Kansas City the strongest and smartest men who’ve ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don’t need. We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no baseball team. No football team. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Old Man Kissel
    Paul why can’t we evaluate Matt Cassel

  8. Anonymous says:

    We can’t evaluate his numbers form this season because????????………..it hasn’t been a season. It hasn’t even been a freakin half of a season. It’s like judging somone’s breakfast cooking skills and all you have done is taken a sip of coffee and a bite of toast. Can we not at least be FAIR? Maybe give EVERYONE a full 16 games. Heck we gave Carl a zillion years. Chill people.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Just laughted out loud in a quiet office while reading ManDshagger’s take.

    Pssst … Keitzman … it wasn’t because you’re a Catholic that the girls ran away from you!

  10. Anonymous says:

    “KK might want to reopen the investigation as to the source of these made-fun-of incidents.”

    Yes, and he might also want to review the reasons he couldn’t get dates too.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Thanks to whoever saved me for my terrible previous repeated posts.

    Greg its about fairness not apathy. After say your first 6 or 7 Off The Couch reports in the KC Star, would that been a fair evaluation of your talent and ability? Or are you glad they allowed you to grow and work out some of the rough edges of your writing? Did you come out the gate writing great or was it a process?

  12. Anonymous says:

    Hell, I’m still a process and I’ve been scratching out OTCs since 1994.

    I’m willing to give Scott Todd more time but I don’t see their current problems as youth and inexperience. It looks more like they just added more mediocre players to the ones who were already here.

    Bill Maas made a great point earlier this week on 610. He mentioned how Marty NEVER talked about a “process” or a multi-year plan. Marty told his boss, his team, and his fans that he expected to win — now. No excuses. There is something to be said about athletes playing to the expectations (low or high) of their coach.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Whosenheimer, whatsenheimer, Schottenheimer Polka, the way that Haley coaches team is something of a joke-a. Are they high on heroin, mary jane or coca, whosenheimer, whatsenheimer Schottenheimer Polka.

    That Pioli it turns out really is an asshole he gave up the 60 mill to that fucker Cassel, pretty soon little Clark might wind up a little broke-a whosenheimer, whatsenheimer, Schottenheimer POLKA!

  14. Anonymous says:

    Greg-point taken on the Maas statement. Concur.

    In regards to the adding or replacing mediocre players with more or different mediocre players. What was the option? Is their a lot more superstar athletes sacking groceries at Hy-Vee waiting to be discovered?

  15. Anonymous says:

    “I am contracted to buy my (chief’s)season tickets thru 2012. I can opt out with a mere 10% Penalty”
    I’d like to be able to hold a gun to my customers heads.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Pioli was hired because of his/their success in acquiring talent in New England — through the draft and free agnecy. He’s only had one draft w/o Hoodie but it appears to be a stinker. His second will need to be stellar or we’ll remain cellar dwellers.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Rick M
    Baldwin’s best performance was in ‘The Hunt for Red October.’ And I don’t even like the guy.

    Carry on.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Kurt Russell as Snake Plissken in Escape From New York. Alec Baldwin is unwatchable. Kate Hudson in anything. She’s smoking hot. I just hope, for her sake, she’s not catholic. Or at least don’t tell KK.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Old Man Kissel
    Greg, when Maas made his comments that you brought up was his high on blow at the time?

    810 scoops 610 once again!

  20. Anonymous says:

    Stop! Gavin-time.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Greg-I think this is the key line “appears to be a stinker”. We both know that sometimes it takes years to fully evaluate a draft. So it just goes back to what I’ve been saying. We need to be fair and let things play out before we go all ape crazy and cry the sky is falling. We have years of information to make on say a judgment on K.K., Whitlock, Bill Synder, etc. But with these guys its just way to early to say a lot with substance. First impressions is what we are talking about.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Old Man Kissel
    810 scoops 610 once again!

  23. Anonymous says:

    810 scoops horse manure again…yea

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