OTC: Huskers/Mizzou, Let The Real Season Begin!
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Mr. X
Couple things:
Missou split the Big XII North with Nebraska last year. They didn’t win outright. No one seems to remember this.
It’s scarlet and cream, not crimson. That’s OU.
Uncle Dick
She must have been hung over from partying with Warpaint the night before.
petomane
Missouri must when with the coaching they received on Monday and Tuesday.
Pinkel doesn’t show up with a plan B.
greg
Mr. X,
Scarlet it is. I have been living south of Fall City far too long. But since when did Nebraska fans start claiming halvsies on division titles? Please, leave that for the Kansas football fans.
Ptolemy
The only difference between the Gary Pinkel that got blasted by Lee Corso as a dumb coach and the Gary Pinkel of today is some modest recruiting success.
But to characterize the Missouri fanbase surrounding Pinkel as nothing different than the Huskers around Solich is a bid blind to the inherent differences between the programs. Nebraska was coming off being one of THE TOP three programs in the country abd they had much higher expectations for good reason. Mizzou had sucked a long time up to the point of that Ball State game.
Enough of this — who can look up the Kansas Department of Revenue and see who actually owned the car at the time of the accident?
Mr. X
Greg,
Touch
JS
Ptolemy you and KK can check that out if you want to. It looks like a dead issue and another indication of KK’s lack of journalistic talent. He even admitted he should have called Pollard but didn’t because he wanted to protect him. My BS detector went up on that one! KK looked pretty foolish–ran with something and within an hour and 1/2 he was looking more like a KSU homer than ever before.
Bill
Vegas isn’t stupid. The number is there for a reason, even if Roy Helu hasn’t practiced because of the flu. They don’t set lines to lose their shorts.
I bet the line would be -7 if Nebraska had beat Virginia Tech.
Also if I am Missouri, lots of rain is the last thing I would like to see tomorrow night. Although it will make a great excuse after the game.
SM
The line on this game is crazy. My prediction:
Mizzou 77
Nebraska -5
Regards,
Mike DeArmond (The Real BA Homer)
nick
I think Nebraska is very good. But I’m getting tired of hearing how great they played against Virginia Tech. Yeah, they DID play okayl….but I’m not convinced Virginia Tech is all that great. Virginia Tech’s QB looked to be a horrendous passer. And Nebraska’s offense sputtered much of the game.
I like Missouri’s chances tomorrow.
(MEMO TO GREG…..PLEASE post the SCOTT POLLARD v. KK interview. I only heard some of the aftermath, but it sounds like KK once-again earned his King D-Bag nickname.)
Ptolemy
Pollard is not the story. Pollard’s name in the police report IS the story. Until Simon bar Sinister produces a document from the State of Kansas proving that Pollard did not own the car, there is an NCAA violation occurring and it involves an institution on probation.
mrolathe
Pt-how could you possibly listen to KK then agree with him once Pollard came on that KK had not made him part of the story? Isn’t that really the whole story? That it was his car? And for KK to say that Pollard tried to start something is even more of a fantasy. Pollard, who certainly is a different cat, could not have been calmer.
Ptolemy
Why would a Pollard denial be of any relevance? It is in Pollard’s interest to convey a story that supports that he sold the car to Taylor. Were he to say anything else, his university perks go bye-bye because he just put the university right back on probation. Unless Pollard has the documentation proving that he no longer owns the car, he has placed his university in deep doo-doo. He said nothing about having such papers.
JS
Ptolemy,
All it takes is a signed title conveying ownership from Pollard to Tyshawn Taylor. He wouldn’t have the documentation. He would have given it to Taylor to re-title the car. The title is the document and as long as it is signed and dated there will be no problem. You and KK can dream all you want about infractions etc but as long as that exists there is no problem here.
greg
nick,
I didn’t hear the KK/Scot Pollard conversation. I did catch KK discussing it later and him saying Pollard “Wanted to fight me.” 810 hasn’t posted it on their website and it also did not make the bonus hour. That is a pretty good sign to me that KK isn’t too proud of whatever went down.
KK also stated that “nowhere” is there documentation that ownership of Polard’s car was transfered to Taylor. “We have people who know how to look this kind of thing up,” he said. This made no sense to me unless KK has met with both Pollard and Taylor and they confirmed there is no bill of sale. Email me if anyone has an electronic copy of that portion of today’s show.
Ptolemy
ANother thing. The officer ran the plate when he took the information down. State records apparently show Pollard still owns the car. If Taylor bought it, as Pollard claims, in July or August, Taylor has to get temporary tags immediately to drive the car. The Temp tags last 29 days. The police report says the car’s registration expires in 2009. That means it is not currently licensed to Taylor. If he went and got the temp tag in early August, and got the new plates by the end of August, the plate (actually the sticker) could not expire in 2009 as the police report says. They would last until 2010 or 2011.
What’s going to wash out is Taylor never got the title changed and never changed Pollard’s old tags, thus the car was still registered to Pollard and as far as the legal record is concerned, Morris was driving in a car loaned him by a KU booster.
nick
Thanks Greg.
From what I’ve read, Pollard and KK’s back-and-forth sounded like AWESOME radio, and I too am surprised KK didn’t re-air the interview. It’s very obvious KK wasn’t too proud of it and maybe a little embarrassed by it.
I found this on CJonline, written by someone named Tully Corcoran:
“I sold the car to Tyshawn in a completely legitimate transaction,” Pollard said. “You have a certain amount of time to register the car in your own name and apparently he had some kind of accident in that window and apparently he hadn’t had a chance or hadn’t gotten around to registering it in his name. That’s the end of the story as far as I’m concerned.”
Pollard said he sold Taylor the car in August for a fair Blue Book price.
“I can be honest with you and tell you that Tyshawn was expecting a better deal,” Pollard said. “He was complaining about the price and I said, ‘Hey man, the last thing I’m gonna do is get you and your university in trouble.’ I had fears something like this was gonna happen and that people would investigate and I made sure I sold it to him for a fair price. It was not a handshake deal. It was not a free car by any means.”
Tully Corcoran can be reached at (785) 295-5652
mrolathe
Greg….all Pollard said to KK was you have my number? Why didn’t you call me to clear this up before running with it? And KK bounced around and finally went berzerk telling Pollard that the story wasn’t about him and he’s no longer a big shot and he knows he played in the NBA but not anymore and that he isn’t a big deal. Pollard was very calm the whole time and KK was foaming at the mouth. This was KK at his finest. You gotta get a copy.
JS
Ptolotemy,
If you buy a used car from an individual and are given the title that is signed over to you then you own the car. The registration of the car is the new owner’s job. If I were Pollard I would have taken my plates off and told Tyshawn to get temporary plates but he didn’t do it. The transaction has occured but the state doesn’t know about it until you go register the car. Ownership has effectively transferred but the state doesn’t know about it until later. Ptolemy you must live in alternate universe because I have seen lots of people delay re-titling the car because of having to pay sales tax etc.
Scot Pollard made a statement and until it is found to be untrue we should believe what he said. We have no reason not to believe him and just because he is associated with the KU program is no reason to assail his character as you did in a previous post.
Ptolemy
JS, until the state recognizes the transaction, the car is owned by the “seller.” The car was legally registered to Pollard. The property tax bill for the car will be sent to Pollard until the time that Taylor transfers the title.
Those are just plain facts. Take of your blue and red glasses and you shall see it.
JS
Ptolemy,
Straight from the Kansas DMV:
To transfer ownership, the title for the vehicle or trailer must be assigned to the new owner. The seller must complete all information on the assignment of title except for the buyer
Ptolemy
JS, you conveniently skipped the last sentence of that section…
“The previous owner must remove their license plate from the vehicle or trailer once the title is assigned and the vehicle or trailer is delivered.”
Pollard clearly did not do so, and therefore, his story is undocumented and presumed to be the coverup of a backpedaling booster.
By State law, Pollard owned the vehicle at the time of the accident.
JS
Ptolemy,
Do you really think that invalidates a sale? You and Keitzman are grasping at straws on this one. The assignment of the title is the key and as long as that was taken care of you are out of luck. It’s been fun sparring with you though. Let’s just say we agree to disagree on this one.
Ptolemy
JS, find me where the Kansas DMV says “the key” is the assignment of the title, and you might have something. until then, you are just another in-denial UK booster.
Ham
Mr. X, how did Nebraska do in the Big 12 title game last year? I assume you also played Oklahoma? When do the Detroit Tigers get their co-AL Central Champ pennant?
JS
Ptolemy,
Yes I am a KU booster and you are KSU booster apparently. We both have a lot to be in denial about don’t we? We love our teams and will support them through thick and thin. I just wish Kietzman would have called Pollard and talked to the Athletic department before he went on the air with the story. Don’t assume someone’s guilty before you give them the chance to clear their name or explain. I felt it was a rush to judgement and he could have easily waited a day to “vet” the story a bit.
Ptolemy
You think Pollard’s “story” is going to send the NCAA home happy? Pollard’s story is meaningless without documentation. I’m a KSU fan who saw the UK Star and all of the media go ass-shit crazy when it was revealed that a KState booster bought KStater Frank Murphy a used BMW. I simply want this looked at by the media exactly like that issue was. You beakers are unbelievable.
Pellboy
I’m a KU guy and even I think that shared title stuff someone mentioned above is total nonsense. Missouri won the head-to-head battles against both of the supposed sharers those 2 seasons and therefore should and ARE recognized by any knowledgeable football fan (not to mention the Big XII office)as the true North title holders for ’07 and ’08. Having said that, I’ll be “rooting’ for the hated Huskers to take down the even MORE hated Tigers tonight.
mrolathe
PT-it’s really difficult to even take you serious. Frank Murphy? Are you kidding? I’ve listened to sports talk radio in this town for 20 years and don’t even remember that deal. The media going ass shit on that? What are you smoking? Your intense jealousy of all things KU and straw grasping is concerning in a mental aspect. You really need to get ahold of yourself. KU has and always will be better than KSU in basketball. The 2 were a non issue for a long time until you took the lead in the 90’s. That’s all you had. Now KU is better and you just can’t take it. You and KK wet yourselves at the smallest issue and think you can go all Woodward & Bernstien and take down an institution. I know KK will not give up but it’s sad. Really sad.
Trey Hillman
Thanks, PT. Because of you, a thread about MU-NU was hijacked and turned into a KU basketball thread. I guess your world does revolve around KU. Must suck for you.
nick
What I’ve learned from the events in Lawrence the past few weeks:
Tyshawn Taylor listens to rap songs with the “n” word in it.
The KU basketball team doesn’t like some members of the football team and/or vice-versa.
Brady Morningstar stayed up late one weekend night and was carelss.
Brady Morningstar isn’t very smart.
Bill Self is pissed, as was he showed in interviews, early bootcamp, and suspending Morningstar.
Markief Morris is not a good defensive driver.
Tyshawn Taylor is a little irresponsible and/or lazy and/or broke….like many college kids.
Scott Pollard, who I always have liked, is my hero.
OlatheCat
I’m a KSU fan, but if you would try to look at this objectively, which many people cannot, and read the police report that shows Pollard as the owner of the vehicle, doesn’t it sound at least a bit fishy? All 810 reported on was the police report. The question I had yesterday was I’d like to know how much Pollard sold the car for and it seems like he has answered it. If he sold it for fifty bucks, that’s basically like giving it to him, but if he sold it for blue book value, then all is good.
I also find it interesting the different takes on the Kietzman/Pollard “discussion.” KU fans think it was great and say that Pollard owned Kietz, but I think both of them came off sounding bad. It was good radio though.
Ptolemy
They both came off sounding bad in the Pollard call, but Pollard got the worst of it because he lowered his status by calling-in in the first place. KK always comes off as a flame thrower to the beakers in this town.
I particularly liked KK’s take after ending the Pollard call when he said he purposely didn’t call Pollard before running with the story because he knew Pollard was a loose-cannon who would hurt himself and his university.
The enjoyable part of the KK-Pollard call was if you’ve gone to either school, you cannot fake love and respect for the other program. there’s nothing more disingenuos than hearing KK wax Mangino’s belly over how great a coach and program they have or hearing anybody on 610 say something good about the MU or KSU programs. You can’t hide the hate that exists. Just go with it. That’s what made KK-Pollard so great to listen to.
nick
It speaks VOLUMES that KK didn’t re-air the interview in the bonus hour.
KK knows good radio, and that interview sounds as if it was PHENOMENAL radio. I think KK’s burned the tape.
810 steps in it again!
mrolathe
I’m not sure how Pollard came off sounding bad. All he did was call KK and say I sold the car to the kid for blue book and it was approved by compliance. KK could have checked it out himself if he had called Pollard prior to going on the air with a partial story. That’s it. KK then got all huffy and showed his real stripes at the end of the call and then came up with a lame excuse that he made up on the fly. KK has a track record of this and if you believe otherwise then you’re just plain stupid.
OlatheCat
Thanks for calling me stupid. Pollard called and went on attack mode and he hadn’t even heard any of the show nor Kevin’s comments up to that point. He sounded misinformed and very defensive. He wouldn’t listen and kept on attacking, even though he had no idea what Kevin had said. THAT’S why he didn’t come off well.
KK’s no saint and he lives off of this kind of stuff. But I’m glad he stood up to Pollard instead of backing down, which is what all you KU fans would have loved even more.
Uncle Dick
Pollard should have said it was stolen. Believable. End of story. Back to MU/NU. Tired of reading about glorified hubcap theives and hack radio guys.
mrolathe
Attack Mode? Are you serious? He never even raised his voice. He simply said to KK why didn’t you call me to clear this up? You have my number. To categorize that as attack mode is insane. Yes, I am now saying you are insane.
OlatheCat
Take the goggles off. And then listen to it again. I’m used to the name calling from your fanbase, so no offense taken. KSU and MU fans have a lot of fun at your expense, so keep it up.
Old Man Kissel
Looks like the KK haters are in full force. Great scoop by KK!
Greg maybe you can explain this one for me. When in the hell did talk show host become a Journalist?
I find it interesting that you and many posters keep calling him this because many national and local political talk show host (Rush, Savage, Beck, Hannity and Jaye) think it’s an insult if you call them journalist.
KK is a talk show host, and from the ratings a damn good one. If you want journalism there is a old Edward R Murrow clips you can watch on Youtube.
810 scoops 610 once again!!!
greg
OMK,
The only reason I hold KK’s actions up to those of a journalist is that he himself has repeatedly stated his show is based on professionalism, facts and not speculation. He cringes at the thought of those who would call him anything but a journalist.
rick
OLD MAN-BUSTED!!!