OTC: Pinkel A Putz On 2-Pt. Calls / K-State Fan Support Fading?
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Brian
The word fan is actually generally traced back to being short for “fancy” not “fanatic.” Its also funny that with all the staggering list of things Gary Pinkel has done to resurrect the Missouri program that people nitpick on 2 pt conversions. Nick Wright would give his left arm for Syracuse to be as good as Missouri.
smartman
I’ll bet Bill Snyder has something John can put his lips on!
Soren Petro knows a thing or two about being insecure.
When it comes to heads up asses, well 810 does scoop 610 once again.
Ain’t that right Gary? That’s right!
MoCrash
Actually, “fanatic” stems from the Latin “fanaticus,” which refers to religious rites.
If Wright and others are going to blast Pinkel for in-game strategic decisions, would it not be better to point to failures which actually cost Missouri a loss?
mrolathe
Greg-You are showing a little hate on KU today. 1st a slam on football fans. I think you would be surprised if you sat in the stands the past 5-6 yrs (the Mangino era) and realized that KU fans are about as knowledgable as any out there. And I’m guessing Lew Perkins has a pretty full plate and can probably be excused for not knowing Facebook. As far as everything else he has done at KU in his tenure, you’d be hard pressed to name 5 other ADs who have accomplished more in the past 5 years. Floridas AD might be about it.
jojo
sorry bullsh*t radio guys who know nothing…
1. Missouri is going to have a great year.
4-0 start. This nebraska game will be bigger than ku game. The crowd will be fired up like
only one other time in history. Pinkel has really
one of the top future qb’s in the nation. Someone said he’s not fast…did you see the guy
outrun d.b’s. I predict a mu victory and mizzou
finishes the year with just 2 or 3 losses…a
remarkable season. However, the mu offense appears a bit cocky thinking they can do anything they want. Pinkel needs to be a little
more conservative on those 2 pt. calls.
KU has a great team. As a mizzou fan i look
forward to their matchup. But KU should end up
in the top 10 or 8 at seasons end. Mangino has
done a great job (not as good as pinkel) but
mangino after this year shouldhead for greener
pastures with another big time football school.
Nebraska: great team…pelini is cool.
The north division is having a great year.
But they might be each other up thru the season.
KU should lose to ou and texas and possibly one
other team. But they still have a great team.
MU: as good as they want to be. Pinkel has to
keep them from getting too cocky but this could
be his best year coaching.
Kent
I distinctly remember reading the KC Star on a Friday (or maybe even Saturday) morning in 2002 and chuckling because there were still tickets available for the Wildcat’s game against USC. USC!!! K-State’s first non-conference home game against a ranked opponent in the Bill Snyder era. I think they did get enough walk-up traffic to get to a sellout, but let’s just say I’m not surprised by the lack of sales and am highly suspicious of Mr. Lipson’s claim that if the Widlcats had Gator-like expectations their remaining games would already be sold out.
Rupert Pupkin
don’t know about the specifics of the 1971 game cited, but Petro is correct that much of college football in the 60s and 70 was crushingly dull. Boring running play after boring running play. Where I was, we would get saturated with hype about Michigan v Ohio State every year, Woody v. Bo, and every year it was the biggest waste of 3 hours. Don’t know exactly when college football became entertaining, but I’m still bitter over the loss of a lot of Saturday afternoons in my youth.
rick
GREG CONGRATULATIONS on your 200th blog. Thanks for bringing back off the couch which is thought provoking and argument inducing. Keep up the outstanding work.
Pellboy
I don’t care how prevalent facebook is these days, no way a man in his 60s SHOULD know how it works. How freaking pussified have we become?
And can we please refer to Bill Snyder’s coaching greatness in the PAST tense? Two sub-.500 seasons and leaving the cupboard bare for his successor are to me clear indicators that he may have lost his touch. Placing him above Coach Pinkel at this time in their careers, is just a ridiculous statement. Until he has some real success in this league as it exists NOW, can we please refrain from continually referencing his past accomplishments which are completely irrelevant at this time.
nick
The KU-MU-Nebraska duke-out in the North is gonna be THRILLING to watch.
ALSO…to me, the games might decide which team has the best coach. I think they’re all “very good”, but I’m reluctant to call any of them “great” yet:
Mangino – He’s Snyder-like in his attention to detail and ability to get the most from his good-but-not-phenomanal talent. But his inabality to have a consistently good defense is a little bothersome.
Pinkel – I like his aggresiveness and he’s bringing in amazing talent. But I too have always wondered about his in-game management. Pinkel would have Chase Daniels in shot-gun on 1st and goal from the 1 yard line. And he’s had a couple winnable games in the past where his team laid a huge egg (Ok. St. at home and Oklahoma in the title game).
Pelini – If I was a Nebraska fan, I’d like that my coach was animated and intense. But as an outsider, I think it could be a problem when he’s in a tough fight with MU or KU. We’ll see. I am starting to think his defenses will always be very good, which is a huge first step towards winning a North championship.
Eric
Nick Wright is a major league tool, and one of the big reasons I never listen to 610. The fact that he’s dumb enough to bring up redshirts just proves it. Hey Nick, he also let Chase Daniel play as a true freshman. Worked out ok. In fact, they made a bowl game because of it. Without Chase Daniel playing in the ISU game, Gary Pinkel may not even be coaching at Mizzou now. The only qb in Pinkel’s tenure that’s started at Mizzou and didn’t play as a true freshman has been Brad Smith. Pulling Tony Temple’s redshirt has had ZERO negative impact on the program. Why? Because when you recruit like Pinkel does, you always have a stud waiting in the wings. In this case, it was Derrick Washington. And you know what? He’s already got a stud waiting in the wings to take Gabbert’s place when he graduates in James Franklin. The guy is one of the top 5 spread offense qb’s in the nation.
Woah.
Why are you so jealous of Soren? He seems to be the only guy in the media that you have nicknames for. Did he call you a cocksukcer too?
Nick is totally off base on redshirts. It’s a different time. Temple could of had another year had he been willing to wait out the medical hardship process, but he didn’t. He chose to leave. Also what about a guy like Maclin (who got hurt his freshman year) left as a redshirt sophmore? You can’t count on having guys for 4 years of actually playing time anymore. If their good enough to get on the field you’ve got to do it.
Ptolemy
All of you tools predicting that Snyder will “fail” in his return to the sideline should come with something more than a subjective predicted result? What did Snyder claim he was going to accomplish in his return? Did he call for another Big 12 Championship? Did he predict anything beyond saying he wanted to steer the program back in the right direction (“calm the waters”).
UK and MU fans, come to the table when you win a Big 12 Championship. Then you can talk shit. Until then, you’re both still closer to the bottom of the Big 12 North than you are the top.
nick
“UK and MU fans, come to the table when you win a Big 12 Championship.”
HILARIOUS that Snyder wins ONE Big 12 Championship, and now KU and MU can never talk smack until they win one. And in that magical year, K-State lost 4 games, including their bowl game.
Is that any better than Missouri’s last 2 years or KU’s Orange Bowl season?
Ptolemy
If that’s hilarious, it’s gut-busting-pee-your pants farcical tumerity for us to now have to listen to UK-MU hounds resort to win total counts as the best “this is what we did.”
Keep coming — what’s next – net punting yardage?
Eric
Ptolemy went full retard in two paragraphs. MU and KU closer to the bottom of the Big 12 North than the top? Are you really that stupid? MU’s been to the past two B12 Champ games, and will contend if not win the Big 12N again this year. It’s not like both of these teams have been swimming around the middle of the Big12N the past couple of years.
Old Man Kissel
A lot of interesting takes by KK and the 810 crew. 610 and Nick Wright not so much. No wonder 810 is No. 1 in this town for sports talk.
810 scoops 610 once again!
Ptolemy
Eric, when looking at performance in Big 12 play, hell in any league, it is customary to look at more than the last two seasons.
Stop…please. You’re only hurting yourself.
mrolathe
Pt-I think you could safely say that KU and MU have been better than KSU for the last 5 years don’t you think?
Ptolemy
The overwhelming and utter dominance exhibited by 66-0 style beatdowns will take a few more years to dim from the horizon.
nick
Ptolemy, stop exaggerating. It was only a 64-0 beatdown.
mrolathe
So you are saying that KSU is still better than KU and MU because they REALLY outscored them in a game 7-8 years ago?
Eric
Yes, that is what he’s saying. Because other than the “Decade of Dominance” (LOL), KSU has nothing else.
jojo
bill snyder did a great job. But his time may be
over. KU and mangino are now the big dog in kansas and are getting the good recruits.
Bill will have trouble taking that away from
mangino.
Pinkel has closed the border and is getting all
the greatmissouri high schoolers (except dalton)
and he’s done a excellent job in keeping missouri
footballers in state.
All of them have to get out of state players
but mangino and pinkel are established in their
respective states and getting good recruits might be hard for snyder.
But I look for Mangino to leave KU if they have
a big year. The fight between football and
basketball teams shows the animosity between the
sports and mangino will have the chance to
move to a big football school afte this year
(provided they don’t lose 3 or 4 games).
It makes sense that mangino look at offers from
other schools in the sec/big 10 etc. who could
use someone like him to rebuild a program at
a football school.
But he’s got to lose some weight. Saw him on tv
last week and he looked horrible. The weight
was even worse than in previous years. He is
a great guy to talk with and he’s done a great
job so its his time to move on.
Uncle Dick
A little off subject, but did you notice that Michael Vick didn’t take any snaps from under center in Sunday’s game? The center probably went to Reid and said “The guy’s been in the joint for three years, I don’t want him anywhere near my ass!”
Maybe Vick thought he was packin’ one of those “keister bombs” the A-rabs are now using, where they place an explosive device in their lower body cavity. Those A-rabs are behind, so to speak, in their technology.
I went to el Sombreo for Taco Tuesday and after a half a dozen tacos, a couple of enchiladas, a side of refried beans, and three cold beers, I invented my own that seems to be very effective, as it leaves buildings intact, but is lethal to humans.
The A-rab that tried to blow up a building and kill some people managed to do neither, and ended up blowing off his backside. So now we have to deal with weapons of ass destruction.
jojo
uncle dick…very funny….get glazier to put
you on stage……….
mrolathe
I don’t see Mangino going anywhere. First of all, that fight is not nearly as big a deal as the press (KK, the few knuckleheads in Lawrence like Mayer and Woodling who don’t like KU) wants it to be. Secondly, and most importantly, any school that is bigger and a better football school is going to shy away from Mangino because of his health. It’s not good and the last thing a bigger football school wants is that. So I’d say MM is here for a while.
Uncle Dick
The only way Mangino is going anywhere is in the back of a Mayflower moving van.
KU is the only university that has a handicapped accessible sideline.
No wonder KU wants $600,000 from Joe College. If Mangino croaks, it would take that much to construct a custom casket.
thatguy
KU and MU have been the dominate schools for about five years. Sorry K-State there is no way of looking around that. And if you want to talk about the past, lets talk about the past and how you guys were the worst football team in D-1 till Snyder got there. They tried to vote you out of the confrence for a reason. K-State, you are the worst academic school in the Big 12, the worst Athletic Department in the Big 12, and have the most retarded fanbase in the Big 12. You guys suck.
mrolathe
It’s hard to disagree with ThatGuy.