OTC: JoPo To Go (We Think) To Be An SI Guy
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Mike
Greg, I COMPLETELY disagree with you on JoPo. I absolutely love reading any of his work(s). Jason Fatlock has made a career(?) out of playing the race card in EVERY article he writes. JoPo writes from the heart, or where he wants to take his readers hearts to, that is. I don’t give a rip if he fabricates stories in his own mind, doesn’t matter. When I read JoPo, it’s like listeneing to James Earl Jones in Field Of Dreams when he delivers his sermon to Ray about how he should keep the field he built. JoPo stirs that kind of emotion in me, and others I’m sure.
Greg, you are too good at what you do, to simply take the contarian point of view with others in their dismay of JoPo. I’ll bet if you asked, you’ll find a 5 to 1 ratio of people who liked JoPo’s writings, as to those who didn’t. That doesn’t mean you can simply change your mind about Joe, just don’t give me the musings of one man, well two, Cowboy & Corey, as to JoPo’s popularity.
My point is, there are far more Kent Babbs out here than there are C&C’s who are just trying to be contrarian for ratings (it ain’t working) sake.
Dexter Morgan
Posnanski’s writing is a perpetual Norman Rockwell painting that has one too many rainbows, one too many little boys petting a puppy, one too many rosy cheeked Santas and zero smoky pool rooms or back alleys. Sports has changed since Posnanski was a kid, as has sports coverage and what sports fans desire out of their sports news…yet three sentences into a Posnanski column you feel like you’re reading something Captain Kangaroo would read to children. The sports world is not gee willickers, yet Posnanski tries to paint it that way. Of the few columns if his that I do read all the way through, I’m often reminded of that feeling I get after I’ve eaten Chinese food, where I know I’ve consumed something but still feel unsatisfied.
I wish him luck at SI, it’s bound to be a nice bump in pay…but that magazine is thinner than a slice of St. Louis pizza compared to when I subscribed in the 80s and 90s. Dying a slowwww death, like all other print media.
jojo
STFU GREG HALL….Again. Joe gets a great job
on the national stage with national circulation
of millions and what do you have?
Me and 5 other readers reading your 2 lines of
b.s. ramblings about whether the cat at the
K was bad luck.
Again…hall you throw shit on people. You’re
stuck here in kc with this site and think you
are king of the hill. Get real. The guy gets
a great gig writing and you and the rest of
these small minded worthless $10 a hour bumbling
idiots with no following have the stupidity to
say his move is bad.
You and the rest of these small market jumbo
heads are stuck here. Joe moves on. His pieces
will be read by millions. And yes the magazine
isn’t read by as many people as before but
remember all the talk all over the nation when
greinke was on the cover…2 years ago when
mizzou was on the cover….that swimsuit issue
probably get 100 million dollars worth of free
coverage on every tv and radio outlet and its
a rocket ship for those models.
When you are on the cover of si…you’re big
news. When you write for SI you’re big news
and maybe guys like you don’t read it but every
issue gets 4-5 million readers. What do you
get? 4 to 5 readers.
Why is when someone does good and makes a
great move in life a$$holes like you are there
to throw shit on them. Maybe its because you’re
a small minded…jealous…local (at best) guy
with no readers and no future can’t stand it when
someone moves up in the world when you are
going NOWHERE!
GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE!
rick
Mike when you write something like “I don’t give a rip if he fabricates stories.” Well that is all that needs to be said as you have VERY low standards. You want something that makes you feel good.
It reminds me of these folks that are looking for a church that just gives them uplifting and encouraging messages. PLEASEeeeeee no talk of sin, dying on the cross, or the need for me to repent. Just tell me something that feels good.
On occasion I’ve found JOPO has done outstanding work. His take that Herman was done wrong by the Chiefs during his dismissal was bold…for him. But also incorrect. So I would say I’m one of the MANY that is with C&C, Greg, and others.
jojo
SORRY LOSERS (GREG/610 STAFF) THE ACTUAL
NUMBERS…
CIRCULATION OF SPORTS ILLUSTRATED: 3,000,000
READERSHIP OF SPORTS ILLUSTRATED: 10,000,000
READERS OF GREG HALL’S OTC: 7
LISTENERS OF 610: aqH: 4000
IDIOTS IN KC SPORTS MEDIA: TOO MANY
STOP THROWING SHIT ON JOE. DURING HIS TIME HEAR
I DON’T REMEMBER A SINGLE NEGATIVE POST ABOUT
THIS GUY. NOW THAT HE’S MOVING ONTO THE NATIONAL
STAGE WITH BIG MONEY AND INCREDIBLE READERSHIP
YOU LOSERS THROW CRAP ON HIM. DOES HE CARE?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
JimmyD
I would much rather read ANYTHING
JimmyD
sorry…but I’d rather read Greg Hall than JoPo any day of the week. Not that I don’t like Derrick Thomas, or Buck O’Neil, or Frank White, or Otis Taylor, or whomever’s jock JoPo is latching onto these days. I’ll also take Greg on the radio over JoPo also
Ross
JoPo is actually very well known – and highly regarded – outside of KC on the nerdier baseball websites.
Mike
“Well that is all that needs to be said as you have VERY low standards. You want something that makes you feel good.”
Rick with all due respect…….
Low standards? Um, gee, let’s see.. I’d guess that JoPo’s mantle at home may be falling down from the weight of all the awards he’s received from his writings. How’s that for low standards, name someone else in this market who’s been honored as much? I’d say I’ve set the bar quite high, and JoPo has jumped over it rather consistantly.
And don’t get me started on church and religion, you DON’T want to go there with me.
Oh, and just for grins, I googled JoPo to see what I could see, and found this rather easily.
“For the second time in three years, Joe Posnanski was honored as the top sports columnist in the United States by the Associated Press Sports Editors”
Hard to argue with someone’s peers, but I’m sure you will.
Mike
JimmyD Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
sorry
Luthur
“Rick Reilly has as many enemies as fans.”
He has fans?
“While JoPo has garnered much acclaim amongst his fellow sports writers, he is almost unknown outside the I-435 beltway.”
I gotta disagree with that. I read 3 – 5 sportsblog a day and he is frequently name-checked and linked to. He doesn’t have a face for ESPN and so you don’t see him on the idiot yammering head ESPN shows.
MoCrash
JoPo is very good, certainly good enough to jump into a higher tax bracket, but mainly as a feature writer. That’s essentially SI these days — JoPo would probably not fit in with the old TSN (whose 30-year subscription I abandoned over a decade ago when it evolved into an outreach format), with a more nuts-and-bolts approach. JoPo is routinely a pleasant read, but without the edge a great columnist needs. He was a complementary counter to Whitlock’s bloviating.
However, I doubt if anybody has earned the prestige and rewards which go with being an SI Senior Writer more than Joe. Besides being a likeable fellow (as colleagues have told me), he is also well-regarded by his employers for 1.) being incredibly prolific (and admirable trait) and 2.) not causing much trouble (to a journalist, pretty much a criticism).
Whether JoPo is in the class of the legendary SI sport writers of past years will be answered in due time, I guess, but any evaluation is largely subjective. I’d say this much: I’m actually more likely to read JoPo with SI, where I expect the lighter fare, than I have been his columns in the Star.
jojo
Good luck Joe. Wish you luck in your new
position. Hope that one day you can write about
a super bowl or world series win in Kansas City.
Till then, the simple minded losers of kc along
with jealous losers like greg will still be
sticking around this place trying to rain on
everyone’s parade.
Show them how to write. Because the people we
get stuck with in kc skipped out on english
class.
And on your way out the door…tell whitlock that he’s probably headed to a bigger pasture
soon so he won’t have to put up with the
nimble minded sports talk guys at 610 and
at kc confidentail.
greg
Mike,
I understand that you and many readers love JoPo
Gavin
I think the interesting part, Greg, is that you cited several other sportswriters who accuse Posnanski of fabricating stuff but they won’t go on the record. Now, maybe they’re telling the truth, but going off the record to assassinate the character of someone who has won a lot of awards for doing what you do only better (not you, Greg, the writers who hide behind anonymity to make the accusations) looks really weak, petty and jealous. Mitch Albom has a similar reputation to Posnanski as a writer but when he got caught fabricating stuff, he got hammered for it and rightly so. Why doesn
greg
Gavin,
If you read enough of JoPo’s work, you will find instances where he
rick
Mike loved the line “Hard to argue with your peers but I’m sure you will.” You also are much nicer then me. “With all due respect.” You are no JoJo which is a good thing.
All that being said you misread my comments. It wasn’t JOPO that I said had low standards it was you. You made it clear that you really didn’t care if he fabricated things or not. And I HAVE NO CLUE if he has. But it wouldn’t matter to you anyway.
Maybe my church analogy sucked so we’ll use a different one. Your logic is very close to “I don’t care if they cheated to win.” “I don’t care if he used steroids to gain a competitive advantage.” Therefore I assume that if you found out all those awards of Jopo were actually stolen material you’d have no problem with that.
When it comes to Jopo you think with your heart. Emotionally. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. But I think sometimes it hinders forming a logical conclusion.
And as far as rewards. These are often popularity contests and have no relation to quality of work.
Gavin
Me too, Greg. But if you have problems with what he says, say your problems. Don’t be the mouthpiece for someone else who may have an agenda or an axe to grind. I mean, unless they want to go on the record as accusing a writer of a journalistic mortal sin, in which case I’m fine with you being their mouthpiece. Providing anonymity for guys who don’t have the balls to say the ugly shit they think is true shows that neither they nor you have the confidence to put your name to the accusations.
rick
Jojo you don’t every remember a single negative post on JOPO until his new job…….that’s called Alzheimer. And for a guy that wants to slam Greg so much it seems like you read him quite a bit and post here often. In fact i’d say you are Greg’s most loyal fan based on quantity of posts.
Writing is like beauty. Its not the same for everyone. It SHOCKS me that their are people out their that think Sarah Jessica Parker is attractive. But different strokes for different folks. Just because JOPO isn’t me or Hall’s cup of tea doesn’t mean we’re right and everyone else is wrong. Just different tastes.
White Boy John
Not surprising if you do a study of Babb’s fictional work that he would be a guy singing JoPo’s praises.
Jayson Blair
JoePo and Babb are my two favorite sportswriters. I wish I had their editors.
Mike
“Writing is like beauty. Its not the same for everyone…. Just because JOPO isn
jojo
JO PO GAINS NATIONAL JOB. HALL SITS IN KC!
rick and greg hall full of bull….
did a quick roll thru all of hall’s otc posts..
and didn’t find one in reference to jo po
so all of a sudden hall’s target is jo po
…wow…how much of a loser can you be.
Then you post that he’s not your style of writing and blast the guy .
Why is it in this town when someone does something good hall and the restof 610
blast them. When watson came close to winning
a major at 59 you idiots tried to bang on him.
What idiots you are. In your life yoyu’ve done
nothing and you use this site to bash someone
with more class, money, style and guts than you’ll ever have.
stop the crap.
Dexter Morgan
Coming to a dentist’s or doctor’s waiting room near you…SI!
Mike
” Dexter Morgan Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Coming to a dentist
Gavin
Jojo, Greg has mentioned JoPo before and he has been negative about it too. Try looking back in February or March when Greg bashed JoPo for having the audacity to buy two Apple computers (how dare he?!) when the newspaper business was in its death throes. The gall of the man to spend his money how he wants. I recall it well becausse I posted a note saying that I liked Posnanski. So, yes, Greg has had a hard-on for Pos for awhile now, although with this blog post it seems that his erection has lost a tiny bit of vigor. Age catches up with us all, I guess.
JimmyD
All of us readers were happy when Greg ended his retirement and came back to write about the local sports media. Let’s just see how many of us will subscribe to SI now that JoPo is the top dog. By the way, Greg’s ass tastes like snozzberries
Looper
Everyone laughing about SI being a dying pub should scroll up and check the article about the Star laying off more staffers. Say what you will about his writing, but JoPo was smart enough to find himself a lifeboat that wasn’t sinking as quickly as his old one.
Ptolemy
JoPo…may he rest in peace.
Dick Mackey, however, will live forever!
Burman Dinstow
My main problem with JoPo has been that he apparently is such a “nice guy” that he often can’t bring himself to write as honestly as he should. In recent years, the Royals and Chiefs have been so bad that he has had no choice but to come down hard (relatively) on the lame performance of so many in KC sports. Coming from him, such criticism carries greater weight (if you’ve lost Posnanski, you’ve lost the war.)
Around here, he’ll always be compared with Jason Whitlock. JoPo is clearly a superior writer and significantly more aware of sports, past and present. Jason gets more notoriety because of his tendency to go for the easy controversy and the provocative point of view, but Whitlock’s opinions seem not be deeply felt — they seem to be calculated to maintain and enhance his self-created and undeserved image as a fearless iconoclast. Posnanski is often too soft and mushy, but over the years he has convinced me that he comes by those sentiments honestly.
dimebag
Jopo should go write romance novels. Good writer, yeah he is…Is he Christopher Hitchens…HELL NO…Frank Deford…NO WAY. For anybody that follows the journalism/sports writing beat JoPo has been compared to Mike Barnicle on a number of ocassions, nationally…not just locally. You can’t make any bones writing sports if you don’t break balls. JoPo channels Oprah when he writes. The only way he’d be more touchy-feely is if he were an octopus.
I’m glad he’s gone and can only hope that Whitlock is next.
ManDshagger
Jopo = The Peter Principle:
The Peter Principle is the principle that “In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence.” It was formulated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull in their 1968 book The Peter Principle, a humorous treatise which also introduced the “salutary science of Hierarchiology”, “inadvertently founded” by Peter. It holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Sooner or later they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their “level of incompetence”), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. This principle can be modeled and has theoretical validity. Peter’s Corollary states that “in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out his duties” and adds that “work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence”.
rick
HEY JOJO. I guess all the above blows two of your thoughts. One, everyone loves JOPO. Two, Hall only has 7 readers. And yes you roll through Greg’s post was quick as you missed some stuff.
Has anyone heard the sad state Otis Taylor is in? Prayers go out.
Looper I agree with you the JOPO made a smart business decision.
Thanks Mike concur.
Burman interesting take. If you lose JOPO you have lost the war. I tend to agree with that and I never thought of things from that light. Thanks.
Old Man Kissel
I heard 810 talking about JoPo leaving the night before the Star column. Another 810 scoop over 610!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rick
Thats because you don’t listen to 610 or you would know they had already reported it. 810 late again
Old Man Kissel
You’re wrong 810 scooped 610…..once…..again…….
Rupert Pupkin
Not 810 or 610….Joe had the scoop about his SI gig on his own radio show. Few people know that after 1250 The Game went off the air, Joe continued his radio show in his basement to entertain Margo and the girls. It’s low-power, and you can only pick it up if you wear tin foil in your hat like me